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> China's Man-on-the-Side Attack on GitHub > and can conclude that China is using their active and passive network infrastructure China is a country that has 1

> China's Man-on-the-Side Attack on GitHub > and can conclude that China is using their active and passive network infrastructure China is a country that has 1.35B people in it. I guarantee you that 99.9% of those people had nothing to do with this attack. Can we stop using "China" and be more specific? It feels like it's blaming innocent people and possibly an entire innocent country. Chinese attackers? The Chinese government? People outside China who hacked Chinese internet infrastructure? At this point can we even be certain who specifically is to blame?

EC1 12y ago
Nobody is sitting here equating the word "China" with the entirety of the Chinese people.
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random_pr 12y ago
people know that it refers to the chinese government, rather than the people. you can be more specific if you'd like, but it is unnecessary.
discardorama 12y ago
> Can we stop using "China" and be more specific? Unfortunately, it is common usage to refer to the actions of a government as the actions of the country itself. You don't hear people say "The US Government invaded Iraq"; you instead hear "US invaded Iraq". You don't hear "The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's government committed airstrikes in Yemen"; you hear "Saudis committed airstrikes in Yemen". To the broader point, about citizenry -versus- government: to some extent, as an American, I do feel a little responsible for my government's actions; and periodically do approach my senators and congresswoman to express my disagreement with the policies they have espoused. Maybe Chinese citizens can also chime in and ask their government (via Weibo or whatever medium is possible) why it's doing this to GitHub? Though probable most people on this planet would have no idea what "GitHub" is, so I'm not sure if anyone outside the tech world cares.
claudius 12y ago
People are as much responsible for their governments as the governments are responsible for their people. You can’t let a couple thugs run your country and then say “oh I never liked them, so don’t blame me!!111” when someone points out that they’re thugs.

EC1 12y ago

Nobody is sitting here equating the word "China" with the entirety of the Chinese people.

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random_pr 12y ago

people know that it refers to the chinese government, rather than the people. you can be more specific if you'd like, but it is unnecessary.

discardorama 12y ago

> Can we stop using "China" and be more specific? Unfortunately, it is common usage to refer to the actions of a government as the actions of the country itself. You don't hear people say "The US Government invaded Iraq"; you instead hear "US invaded Iraq". You don't hear "The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's government committed airstrikes in Yemen"; you hear "Saudis committed airstrikes in Yemen". To the broader point, about citizenry -versus- government: to some extent, as an American, I do feel a little responsible for my government's actions; and periodically do approach my senators and congresswoman to express my disagreement with the policies they have espoused. Maybe Chinese citizens can also chime in and ask their government (via Weibo or whatever medium is possible) why it's doing this to GitHub? Though probable most people on this planet would have no idea what "GitHub" is, so I'm not sure if anyone outside the tech world cares.

claudius 12y ago

People are as much responsible for their governments as the governments are responsible for their people. You can’t let a couple thugs run your country and then say “oh I never liked them, so don’t blame me!!111” when someone points out that they’re thugs.