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The concept of a livestream isn't new at all, but there are a thousand subtle things that are slightly different (http://austenallred.com/_site/the-subtle-thing

The concept of a livestream isn't new at all, but there are a thousand subtle things that are slightly different (http://austenallred.com/_site/the-subtle-things/ http://austenallred.com/_site/the-subtle-things/). The way they're tied into Twitter and riding an already-existing social graph, the widespread adoption of mobile, the availability of bandwidth and the acceptance of ephemerality are all completely different than Justin.tv or the many other attempts in this space.

bentcorner 12y ago
Interesting. Makes me wonder if there's value in shipping multiple pivots of the same concept when keeping multiple paradigms in a single app could be confusing. Sort of like a/b testing at the app store level, or purposefully unbundling yourself.
- samstave 12y ago
  +1 for the buzzword-density of your post, but I also find that to be an insightful idea -- only problem is that many times one is blind to the alternate 'pivots' that you might was to ship versions of. Plus, the development of any given 'pivot' is not necessarily trivial, and could be beyond the skills/resources of a company/person to do so.
- Spooky23 12y ago
  Perhaps, but only a deep analysis of the metrics will tell if you're shifting the paradigm or just picking low hanging fruit.
lumens 12y ago
Not to mention timing. Even if these were /exactly/ the same product as justin.tv, releasing a few years later into a world with slightly shifted cultural values could make the difference.
angryasian 12y ago
It seems you and everyone else seem to forget about the early live streaming app Qik. http://mashable.com/2011/01/06/skype-acquires-qik-rumor/ http://mashable.com/2011/01/06/skype-acquires-qik-rumor/ it was an incredibly popular live streaming app that died after the skype purchase. Sadly we all seem to have short memories. It offered everything you state. Again nothing new is new.
- austenallred 12y ago
  I specifically reference Qik in the blog post I linked to.
  - angryasian 12y ago
    apologies - I shouldn't have to click on your blog-spam to get the full breadth of your comment's intentions.
    - austenallred 12y ago
      I'm not sure what you expect. According to what you've written, the options are: 1. Write thousands of words of text in an HN comment 2. Be accused of failing to mention one of the dozen livestreaming apps?
      - angryasian 12y ago
        your blog post is incredibly verbose and could have easily been summarized as the thousands of other of commenters have done in this thread.
        austenallred 12y ago
        It was
    - nkohari 12y ago
      Yeah, why bother trying to understand a viewpoint when you can just immediately disagree with it?

bentcorner 12y ago

Interesting. Makes me wonder if there's value in shipping multiple pivots of the same concept when keeping multiple paradigms in a single app could be confusing. Sort of like a/b testing at the app store level, or purposefully unbundling yourself.

samstave 12y ago
+1 for the buzzword-density of your post, but I also find that to be an insightful idea -- only problem is that many times one is blind to the alternate 'pivots' that you might was to ship versions of. Plus, the development of any given 'pivot' is not necessarily trivial, and could be beyond the skills/resources of a company/person to do so.
Spooky23 12y ago
Perhaps, but only a deep analysis of the metrics will tell if you're shifting the paradigm or just picking low hanging fruit.

lumens 12y ago

Not to mention timing. Even if these were /exactly/ the same product as justin.tv, releasing a few years later into a world with slightly shifted cultural values could make the difference.

angryasian 12y ago

It seems you and everyone else seem to forget about the early live streaming app Qik. http://mashable.com/2011/01/06/skype-acquires-qik-rumor/ http://mashable.com/2011/01/06/skype-acquires-qik-rumor/ it was an incredibly popular live streaming app that died after the skype purchase. Sadly we all seem to have short memories. It offered everything you state. Again nothing new is new.

austenallred 12y ago
I specifically reference Qik in the blog post I linked to.
- angryasian 12y ago
  apologies - I shouldn't have to click on your blog-spam to get the full breadth of your comment's intentions.
  - austenallred 12y ago
    I'm not sure what you expect. According to what you've written, the options are: 1. Write thousands of words of text in an HN comment 2. Be accused of failing to mention one of the dozen livestreaming apps?
    - angryasian 12y ago
      your blog post is incredibly verbose and could have easily been summarized as the thousands of other of commenters have done in this thread.
      - austenallred 12y ago
        It was
  - nkohari 12y ago
    Yeah, why bother trying to understand a viewpoint when you can just immediately disagree with it?