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That hadn't even occurred to me. Is that something that prosecutors can even do? It seems legally and ethically suspect, but prosecutors seem to be unaccounta

by ipsin 12y ago

That hadn't even occurred to me. Is that something that prosecutors can even do? It seems legally and ethically suspect, but prosecutors seem to be unaccountable when it comes to that sort of tactic. I can imagine the prosecutors pretending it's not material because it's an "ongoing investigation" (that's purposely paused until the trial finishes), but it would be very interesting to know the complete timeline and see how it meshes with that of the Ulbricht trial.

nateabele 12y ago
If the agents are convicted, you'd think Ulbricht's lawyer could appeal to have his conviction overturned...
- fweespeech 12y ago
  Except these agents were a separate investigation and their evidence wasn't included in the trial.
  - ianstallings 12y ago
    It's relevant though. Missing information is just as important as provided information when it comes to the law. That's what they mean when they say the whole truth.
    - rosser 12y ago
      Only if the missing evidence is exculpatory.
    - fweespeech 12y ago
      If Officer A arrests you for a DUI and speeding on Day X...the actions of Officer B on Day Y for a separate DUI case is irrelevant. The "missing information" as you put it, is related to a murder-for-hire trial that is separate from the Ulbricht-ran-Silk-Road trial.
- cubano 12y ago
  Even if they are not convicted, these charges are more than enough to appeal the entirety of the case against Ulbricht. As someone with direct experience with police corruption (I will save the story for some other time), I hope like heck he gets relief from his conviction due to these stunning revelations. I don't claim to know all the details or connections between these rotten agents and the non-rotten ones, but to be honest, I don't think it matters much. The actors in power have to be held to a much higher standard of conduct than the criminals do, and just the appearances of these perhaps illegal behaviors should cast grave doubt over the entire case.

by ipsin 12y ago

nateabele 12y ago

If the agents are convicted, you'd think Ulbricht's lawyer could appeal to have his conviction overturned...

fweespeech 12y ago
Except these agents were a separate investigation and their evidence wasn't included in the trial.
- ianstallings 12y ago
  It's relevant though. Missing information is just as important as provided information when it comes to the law. That's what they mean when they say the whole truth.
  - rosser 12y ago
    Only if the missing evidence is exculpatory.
  - fweespeech 12y ago
    If Officer A arrests you for a DUI and speeding on Day X...the actions of Officer B on Day Y for a separate DUI case is irrelevant. The "missing information" as you put it, is related to a murder-for-hire trial that is separate from the Ulbricht-ran-Silk-Road trial.
cubano 12y ago
Even if they are not convicted, these charges are more than enough to appeal the entirety of the case against Ulbricht. As someone with direct experience with police corruption (I will save the story for some other time), I hope like heck he gets relief from his conviction due to these stunning revelations. I don't claim to know all the details or connections between these rotten agents and the non-rotten ones, but to be honest, I don't think it matters much. The actors in power have to be held to a much higher standard of conduct than the criminals do, and just the appearances of these perhaps illegal behaviors should cast grave doubt over the entire case.