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Warren Buffet avoids companies that pay out dividends. His opinion is that it is better for a company to take excess cash and invest it into itself. If a compan

by tsomctl 12y ago

Warren Buffet avoids companies that pay out dividends. His opinion is that it is better for a company to take excess cash and invest it into itself. If a company pays out a dividend, it means that it would be better for everyone involved if the money was invested in something completely different from that company. This is a sign that either the company is mismanaged, has little room for growth, or is more focused on short term profit than the long term.

john_b 12y ago
It's important to distinguish between the types of investments Buffet makes and those the average investor makes. Buffet buys large shares that either give him a say in how the company runs its business, or sometimes just buys the business outright. This is important because as a large/sole shareholder you have a huge say in how the company is run. In such a case, money that would otherwise be paid out in dividends can be reinvested in the company in a way which you can influence or control. If merely you buy $1000 of ACME Corp. stock you won't have that kind of influence, so knowing that the company is withholding dividends and reinvesting it is not nearly as sweet of a deal. And if you view the company's reinvestment plan as a net negative for the company and its stock, it would be better to simply have the dividend. Basically, some investors are mostly interested in using equities as a source of cash flow, and some are mostly interested in using them as a way to grow a pile of money into a bigger pile.
rm999 12y ago
Not true. Berkshire invests in dividend paying companies, and Buffet likes that these companies pay dividends. From Buffet's 2012 letter to investors: > Most companies pay consistent dividends, generally trying to increase them annually and cutting them very reluctantly. Our “Big Four” portfolio companies follow this sensible and understandable approach and, in certain cases, also repurchase shares quite aggressively. We applaud their actions and hope they continue on their present paths. We like increased dividends, and we love repurchases at appropriate prices. Berkshire itself doesn't pay dividends, but the reasons are largely technical. First, an investor can just sell shares to get a return on their investment. Second, there are tax benefits to doing it this way. In general, value investors like Buffet don't like the mentality that companies should always invest in themselves. Instead, they like well-managed companies that specialize in what they do well. Growing beyond this is what they consider a bad sign.

by tsomctl 12y ago

john_b 12y ago

It's important to distinguish between the types of investments Buffet makes and those the average investor makes. Buffet buys large shares that either give him a say in how the company runs its business, or sometimes just buys the business outright. This is important because as a large/sole shareholder you have a huge say in how the company is run. In such a case, money that would otherwise be paid out in dividends can be reinvested in the company in a way which you can influence or control. If merely you buy $1000 of ACME Corp. stock you won't have that kind of influence, so knowing that the company is withholding dividends and reinvesting it is not nearly as sweet of a deal. And if you view the company's reinvestment plan as a net negative for the company and its stock, it would be better to simply have the dividend. Basically, some investors are mostly interested in using equities as a source of cash flow, and some are mostly interested in using them as a way to grow a pile of money into a bigger pile.

rm999 12y ago

Not true. Berkshire invests in dividend paying companies, and Buffet likes that these companies pay dividends. From Buffet's 2012 letter to investors: > Most companies pay consistent dividends, generally trying to increase them annually and cutting them very reluctantly. Our “Big Four” portfolio companies follow this sensible and understandable approach and, in certain cases, also repurchase shares quite aggressively. We applaud their actions and hope they continue on their present paths. We like increased dividends, and we love repurchases at appropriate prices. Berkshire itself doesn't pay dividends, but the reasons are largely technical. First, an investor can just sell shares to get a return on their investment. Second, there are tax benefits to doing it this way. In general, value investors like Buffet don't like the mentality that companies should always invest in themselves. Instead, they like well-managed companies that specialize in what they do well. Growing beyond this is what they consider a bad sign.