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I think you overestimate Node's popularity, compared to other languages on the server side.

xasos 12y ago
It's getting more significant. Keep in mind it's only been around for five years, and still has a very good adoption rate for a new technology.
Touche 12y ago
How would you measure such a thing? NPM has more modules than any other language package manager, isn't that evidence that Node is at least somewhat popular?
- EugeneOZ 12y ago
  I didn't say it's not popular. I'm just saying Node's popularity is not even near to Java or PHP. But I agree that Node's/io.js hype is much louder nowadays :)
  - Touche 12y ago
    Does it have to be the most popular runtime to counter the "no one really likes JavaScript, we just use it because we have to" claim? As the grandparent said, no one has to use Node, but people do; a lot of them. I find this topic to be intellectually insulting. You know that JavaScript has its (tens of thousands of) fans. Why tell yourself otherwise? Is your hatred of it so overwhelming that you're not even ready to admit to yourself that others disagree with you?
    - EugeneOZ 12y ago
      "we have to" was not my phrase and it was about client side, not server side. And it's true. Somebody love JS, somebody not so much - nothing wrong with it. People are different and it's the key of evolution.
      - Touche 12y ago
        We're all responding to this statement. > But JavaScript is a bad language, objectively. There's little debate on that subject. Which is obviously false, there is lots of debate on the subject. So can we grow up and get past these blanket statements?
- StavrosK 12y ago
  Node is definitely popular, but the fact that there are more modules than any other language is a bit misleading. Python, specifically, tends to only have one main/popular package that does something, whereas in other languages' cultures I've noticed that there are a few alternatives to choose from.
- hokkos 12y ago
  Node modules are really, really bad compared to maven or NuGet. Most of them comprise of less than 100 lines of codes.
  - 15155 12y ago
    This is NOT a bad thing, and it's one of the things I personally love most about NPM and the node community in general.
    - empthought 12y ago
      Yes, it is a bad thing. It means your upstream dependencies are snippets instead of products.

xasos 12y ago

It's getting more significant. Keep in mind it's only been around for five years, and still has a very good adoption rate for a new technology.

Touche 12y ago

How would you measure such a thing? NPM has more modules than any other language package manager, isn't that evidence that Node is at least somewhat popular?

EugeneOZ 12y ago
I didn't say it's not popular. I'm just saying Node's popularity is not even near to Java or PHP. But I agree that Node's/io.js hype is much louder nowadays :)
- Touche 12y ago
  Does it have to be the most popular runtime to counter the "no one really likes JavaScript, we just use it because we have to" claim? As the grandparent said, no one has to use Node, but people do; a lot of them. I find this topic to be intellectually insulting. You know that JavaScript has its (tens of thousands of) fans. Why tell yourself otherwise? Is your hatred of it so overwhelming that you're not even ready to admit to yourself that others disagree with you?
  - EugeneOZ 12y ago
    "we have to" was not my phrase and it was about client side, not server side. And it's true. Somebody love JS, somebody not so much - nothing wrong with it. People are different and it's the key of evolution.
    - Touche 12y ago
      We're all responding to this statement. > But JavaScript is a bad language, objectively. There's little debate on that subject. Which is obviously false, there is lots of debate on the subject. So can we grow up and get past these blanket statements?
StavrosK 12y ago
Node is definitely popular, but the fact that there are more modules than any other language is a bit misleading. Python, specifically, tends to only have one main/popular package that does something, whereas in other languages' cultures I've noticed that there are a few alternatives to choose from.
hokkos 12y ago
Node modules are really, really bad compared to maven or NuGet. Most of them comprise of less than 100 lines of codes.
- 15155 12y ago
  This is NOT a bad thing, and it's one of the things I personally love most about NPM and the node community in general.
  - empthought 12y ago
    Yes, it is a bad thing. It means your upstream dependencies are snippets instead of products.