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Completely agreed. After reading that I was immediate put off about the rest of the article.

by fabean 12y ago

fit2rule 12y ago
Why? Javascript is not without its thorns and glitches. What makes it perfect for this use, in your opinion? Is it just the general "I don't like something you like" reaction - in which case, what is it that he's wrong about here?
- stupidcar 12y ago
  Who said it was perfect, for this or any other use? You're just constructing a straw man. The actual objection, which was perfectly obvious from the comments you were replying to, is with the use of the word "Javascript" alone without any further explanation, as if it was axiomatic that the use of Javascript is bad. When an article includes such an extreme opinion without explanation, it inevitably puts off anyone who doesn't share it. Moreover, it calls into question the ability of the author to review the technology in a fair way, and the purpose of them reviewing it at all. React Native's entire raison d'etre is to provide a native version of a web development stack. If you are inherently biased against web development technologies, then you're obviously not going to get on with React Native, or any similar technology.
  - fit2rule 12y ago
    I don't think that just because someone doesn't like Javascript it makes their opinion less valid, or that they are a poor developer .. by many professional, highly-productive developers standards, Javascript is a mess and ought to be avoided. For some, the use of Javascript to solve the cross-platform web development problems is a poor decision .. whereas your argument seems to be "everyone else is doing it therefore it must be good and anyone who disagrees with the collective mind is clearly stupid". Sure, I'd like to know why he thought Javascript is a negative. I'd also like to know why some think its a positive. But I fail to see how invalidating his entire argument is going to prompt that discussion. Seems to me like those who disagree with him about Javascript just want to shut down the whole discourse - whereas there could, indeed, be very good reasons why Javascript is a negative.
- fabean 12y ago
  Why, because the entire point of react native is so you can use javascript to handle your logic in your app. This lets you bring in a ton more developers for your projects than just the few people who know Objective-C/Swift. So using a project and disagreeing with it's entire purpose for existing is silly without further explanation of why javascript is bad for this type of thing. In his argument he says they should be using Objective-C over Swift, which is just wrong. Apple says to use Swift, it's faster and easier to use. Beyond not liking javascript as a language it's super fast and easy to learn why not make it so more people can start developing apps using that language. It will create better apps that phonegap apps.
  - bonif 12y ago
    Maybe the point is you can easily port a web app to native. In this case, Javascript is not the point, but the (only) available language

Completely agreed. After reading that I was immediate put off about the rest of the article.

by fabean 12y ago

Completely agreed. After reading that I was immediate put off about the rest of the article.

Why? Javascript is not without its thorns and glitches. What makes it perfect for this use, in your opinion? Is it just the general "I don't like something you like" reaction - in which case, what is it that he's wrong about here?

stupidcar 12y ago
Who said it was perfect, for this or any other use? You're just constructing a straw man. The actual objection, which was perfectly obvious from the comments you were replying to, is with the use of the word "Javascript" alone without any further explanation, as if it was axiomatic that the use of Javascript is bad. When an article includes such an extreme opinion without explanation, it inevitably puts off anyone who doesn't share it. Moreover, it calls into question the ability of the author to review the technology in a fair way, and the purpose of them reviewing it at all. React Native's entire raison d'etre is to provide a native version of a web development stack. If you are inherently biased against web development technologies, then you're obviously not going to get on with React Native, or any similar technology.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  I don't think that just because someone doesn't like Javascript it makes their opinion less valid, or that they are a poor developer .. by many professional, highly-productive developers standards, Javascript is a mess and ought to be avoided. For some, the use of Javascript to solve the cross-platform web development problems is a poor decision .. whereas your argument seems to be "everyone else is doing it therefore it must be good and anyone who disagrees with the collective mind is clearly stupid". Sure, I'd like to know why he thought Javascript is a negative. I'd also like to know why some think its a positive. But I fail to see how invalidating his entire argument is going to prompt that discussion. Seems to me like those who disagree with him about Javascript just want to shut down the whole discourse - whereas there could, indeed, be very good reasons why Javascript is a negative.
fabean 12y ago
Why, because the entire point of react native is so you can use javascript to handle your logic in your app. This lets you bring in a ton more developers for your projects than just the few people who know Objective-C/Swift. So using a project and disagreeing with it's entire purpose for existing is silly without further explanation of why javascript is bad for this type of thing. In his argument he says they should be using Objective-C over Swift, which is just wrong. Apple says to use Swift, it's faster and easier to use. Beyond not liking javascript as a language it's super fast and easy to learn why not make it so more people can start developing apps using that language. It will create better apps that phonegap apps.
- bonif 12y ago
  Maybe the point is you can easily port a web app to native. In this case, Javascript is not the point, but the (only) available language