> Yes, they are paying a high initial cost to develop these offerings. I certainly agree that for organizations who can afford these high initial costs interna

> Yes, they are paying a high initial cost to develop these offerings. I certainly agree that for organizations who can afford these high initial costs internally this is a great development model. My challenge (as a manager at Mozilla) is that, given we don't have such resources available, how do we build partnerships with groups or other projects that do in order to ensure such offerings are built? Of course, another interesting approach would be to say that GitHub, Travis, Heroku, etc. show that DevOps-as-company is a viable business model and really what we should be doing is spinning up companies that raise funding and build products around each of the areas that are still lacking products that serve enterprises (read: customers with money) today.