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public cleanliness is just a side effect of development. new york and london were the same way in the 19th century. shanghai is rapidly developing and is reas
by beachstartup 12y ago
public cleanliness is just a side effect of development. new york and london were the same way in the 19th century. shanghai is rapidly developing and is reasonably clean. tokyo is immaculate because it is fully developed. taipei is very clean also.
in fact cities like london and san francisco still have problems with people pissing and shitting all over the place, except it's due to alcohol and bums and not the level of development. many parts of san francisco reek of piss and shit and there's garbage everywhere after a busy saturday night.
- parennoob 12y ago> public cleanliness is just a side effect of development. new york and london were the same way in the 19th century. I agree, but a) India's cities are largely unplanned, and way denser than NY. Not sure about London. b) Waiting for another century's worth of development is not an effective way to make your country an attractive destination for tourism and investment.
- selectodude 12y agoLondon isn't dense at all.
- ZenoArrow 12y agoI agree with you, but I do wonder if the destructive acts of the Great Fire and the Blitz had a part to play in that.
- selectodude 12y agoBiggest reason is that the soil in London is soft clay, making it incredibly expensive, and until recently, very difficult to build up, and very cheap and easy to build subways. Allowed sprawl to occur earlier than in other cities in the world.
- on_and_off 12y agoDevelopment does not hurt but that's not the only requirement. I would be hard pressed to find a clean sidewalk in France. Many people just throw everything, from cigarette butts, gums to random garbage. I wonder if following Japan example and having the student clean the classroom would be helpful.
- paulhauggis 12y ago"taipei is very clean also" Have you ever been to Taipei? I lived near the city for a little over a year and it wasn't really that clean. Garbage on the streets and people with dogs never cleaning anything up. I regularly had to step over crap on my way to work. The rats would come out at night in droves, but I'm not sure you can really stop this in any big city.
- beachstartup 12y agoyes, i've been to taipei. it was clean. i don't know what shithole part of the city you stayed in. you ever been to mumbai? or rio? or tijuana?