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I love this. Java may be verbose at times but it's still very easy to understand, fast and stable.

• snambi 12y ago
  Java is verbose for a reason. It is easier to modify and run code that is written decades ago. It still works. Being concise is good for the first time. If someone needs to fix the "concise" code years later, the only option may be to throw it away and write it again.
  • yummyfajitas 12y ago
    This is not about conciseness, it is more about lack of language evolution. Older, purely functional haskell ocaml or scheme is quite readable and quite concise. The main place where older code in readable languages (e.g. not J, common lisp, Perl) becomes hard to read is when new language conventions have replaced the old.
    • eternalban 12y ago
      You should temper that first sentence with an 'only'.
  • frostmatthew 12y ago
    I completely agree that much of the verbosity allows the language to express more, e.g. looking at a method signature in Java I know its visibility, what (if anything) it will return, what types I can/should pass it, and what exceptions it can throw...compare that to Ruby where the signature alone doesn't tell me any of that. But there's also a lot of verbosity that adds no (or very little) value, e.g. System.out.println() instead of something like just println() or the several lines of boilerplate needed to run something in a new thread.