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The title should say 'Amazon Redshift'. At first I thought its going to be about redshift vs f.lux: http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://jonls.dk/redshift/ Edit: W

The title should say 'Amazon Redshift'. At first I thought its going to be about redshift vs f.lux: http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://jonls.dk/redshift/ Edit: Why the downvote? redshift (and flux) exist since before 2010, whereas Amazon Redshift got introduced just in 2012. I think it is reasonable to assume that someone who has never heard of Amazon Redshift would think of the open source project first (that exists in various distributions as packages), and not the Amazon service.

untog 12y ago
If we took a poll I suspect the majority would be thinking of the Amazon service - I know I was. The date the projects were introduced isn't necessarily relevant.
- O____________O 12y ago
  The UI colorizer is what I thought of immediately, too. If we took a poll I suspect the majority would be thinking of the Amazon service That's just personal projection, and is as irrelevant as an argument beginning with, "I think most people would agree that..." Personally, regardless of Amazon vs UI hack, I'm really tired of ambiguous naming in tech projects.
  - chc 12y ago
    I'm much more tired of comments on ambiguous naming. There are at least two other people in my city who have my name, and many more who share either my first or last name. Somehow life goes on and this is not a topic of major controversy. But when two pieces of software have similar names, people just can't resist commenting endlessly and upvoting this content-free bikeshedding at the expense of actual discussion.
    - jakobegger 12y ago
      Yes! Especially when people use an existing word like 'redshift' as their product name. (It seems to be a popular choice! I remember there also was this astronomy software for the Mac called Redshift.) Of course, it gets even more ridiculous as the words get more common, eg see recent discussions about 'Paper' or 'Layout'
    - O____________O 12y ago
      There are at least two other people in my city who have my name I'm presented with information to parse about technology topics daily. Sometimes, I have to search for them and have all sorts of name collisions. I never, ever search for information about you. people just can't resist commenting endlessly and upvoting this content-free bikeshedding at the expense of actual discussion One man's bike shedding is another thousand men's irritating trend. Personally, I very rarely see anyone called out for the trendy names and awful, buzzword-laden non-descriptions that infest projects.
  - ajkjk 12y ago
    It's not 'just' personal projection, nor irrelevant, if accurate. Obviously you'd have to run the experiment to find out for sure, but it's not meaningless to contribute "I would expect anyone I know to think of Amazon's Redshift first". For someone who doesn't know that others feel the opposite definition is the 'default', it might be useful to find out.
cheshire137 12y ago
Same here, since I was recently using Redshift on an Ubuntu laptop after coming from F.lux on my Mac. Never heard of Amazon Redshift.
meritt 12y ago
Because why would a company make a blog post on what color adjuster their company uses, and if they did, why would anyone care?
- Crito 12y ago
  Far weirder things have been blogged about before. Not to mention that if you are not already familiar with the company, you probably would not know what sort of blog it was just by looking at what was presented on the HN frontpage. Could have been some random joe-schmoes blog.
argonaut 12y ago
FWIW, I didn't downvote you but you're also kind of hijacking the discussion (especially since this comment is the top comment and it really shouldn't be).
- gurkendoktor 12y ago
  But what can the grandparent poster do? It would be better if a mod could rename the post and delete this subthread. (I also came here expecting to read something about the f.lux competitor :) )
  - argonaut 12y ago
    He/she can downvote the post. Which is the point.

untog 12y ago

If we took a poll I suspect the majority would be thinking of the Amazon service - I know I was. The date the projects were introduced isn't necessarily relevant.

O____________O 12y ago
The UI colorizer is what I thought of immediately, too. If we took a poll I suspect the majority would be thinking of the Amazon service That's just personal projection, and is as irrelevant as an argument beginning with, "I think most people would agree that..." Personally, regardless of Amazon vs UI hack, I'm really tired of ambiguous naming in tech projects.
- chc 12y ago
  I'm much more tired of comments on ambiguous naming. There are at least two other people in my city who have my name, and many more who share either my first or last name. Somehow life goes on and this is not a topic of major controversy. But when two pieces of software have similar names, people just can't resist commenting endlessly and upvoting this content-free bikeshedding at the expense of actual discussion.
  - jakobegger 12y ago
    Yes! Especially when people use an existing word like 'redshift' as their product name. (It seems to be a popular choice! I remember there also was this astronomy software for the Mac called Redshift.) Of course, it gets even more ridiculous as the words get more common, eg see recent discussions about 'Paper' or 'Layout'
  - O____________O 12y ago
    There are at least two other people in my city who have my name I'm presented with information to parse about technology topics daily. Sometimes, I have to search for them and have all sorts of name collisions. I never, ever search for information about you. people just can't resist commenting endlessly and upvoting this content-free bikeshedding at the expense of actual discussion One man's bike shedding is another thousand men's irritating trend. Personally, I very rarely see anyone called out for the trendy names and awful, buzzword-laden non-descriptions that infest projects.
- ajkjk 12y ago
  It's not 'just' personal projection, nor irrelevant, if accurate. Obviously you'd have to run the experiment to find out for sure, but it's not meaningless to contribute "I would expect anyone I know to think of Amazon's Redshift first". For someone who doesn't know that others feel the opposite definition is the 'default', it might be useful to find out.

cheshire137 12y ago

Same here, since I was recently using Redshift on an Ubuntu laptop after coming from F.lux on my Mac. Never heard of Amazon Redshift.

meritt 12y ago

Because why would a company make a blog post on what color adjuster their company uses, and if they did, why would anyone care?

Crito 12y ago
Far weirder things have been blogged about before. Not to mention that if you are not already familiar with the company, you probably would not know what sort of blog it was just by looking at what was presented on the HN frontpage. Could have been some random joe-schmoes blog.

argonaut 12y ago

FWIW, I didn't downvote you but you're also kind of hijacking the discussion (especially since this comment is the top comment and it really shouldn't be).

gurkendoktor 12y ago
But what can the grandparent poster do? It would be better if a mod could rename the post and delete this subthread. (I also came here expecting to read something about the f.lux competitor :) )
- argonaut 12y ago
  He/she can downvote the post. Which is the point.