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is there anything that slack does you can't do with skype? I find lot of these new startups are just creative ways of reinventing the wheel and convincing you

is there anything that slack does you can't do with skype? I find lot of these new startups are just creative ways of reinventing the wheel and convincing you need it to appear cool & hip....kind of like fashion for high schoolers

mastermojo 12y ago
skype doesn't have admin/team lead functions that companies typically might want. my skype mobile app crashes all the time. also inline gifs are cool.
- curiously 12y ago
  could be a bad phone. my skype mobile app used to crash all the time but I switched to a faster Android phone and its smooth.
minitech 12y ago
Skype is really bad for text chat. - It is closed-source, obfuscated, and untrustworthy overall (https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard). - The supported (Windows and Mac) versions have obnoxious ads, and the Linux version is buggy and 32-bit-only. - Since it’s P2P-ish (which makes sense for audio and video calls), you can’t send a message to someone who’s offline and expect them to be notified (say, via e-mail, which Slack does). Worse, if you go offline, they won’t get it until you’re both on at the same time! - Files shared on Skype don’t last. You have to use an external service. - There is no permanent archive; logs are client-side and easy to lose. (You can get messages that are a few days old from peers, but there’s a limit – I don’t know exactly where.)
- zkhalique 12y ago
  - It is closed-source, obfuscated, and untrustworthy overall (https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard). and Streak is open source? - The supported (Windows and Mac) versions have obnoxious ads, and the Linux version is buggy and 32-bit-only. I have the Mac version of Skype, where are the ads? - Since it’s P2P-ish (which makes sense for audio and video calls), you can’t send a message to someone who’s offline and expect them to be notified (say, via e-mail, which Slack does). Worse, if you go offline, they won’t get it until you’re both on at the same time! This part is true, it's pretty limited. - Files shared on Skype don’t last. You have to use an external service. Skype is more P2P - There is no permanent archive; logs are client-side and easy to lose. (You can get messages that are a few days old from peers, but there’s a limit – I don’t know exactly where.) Skype is for encrypted P2P communication. Why not just use IRC?
  - minitech 12y ago
    Yes, I know. What point are you trying to make here? curiously asked: > is there anything that slack does you can't do with skype? So I named some things. Mostly being not P2P. I also prefer IRC over Slack, although you do need to have some system in place for staying connected all the time or receiving logs to make it workable for everyone. Anyway, re: your points: > and Streak is open source? Slack? No, but I don’t have to allow arbitrary code to run free on my computer to use it. > I have the Mac version of Skype, where are the ads? Maybe they’re gone. Windows certainly still has them. > etcetera Sure, it’s P2P. That’s a fine excuse, but it also doesn’t make Skype good.
tomjen3 12y ago
Yeah, about 90%. Slack is many-to-many entities real-time-optional communication, where one particular subset is that all entities are humans and it is entirely real-time. That subset is handled, badly as always, by Skype.
barce 12y ago
Yes, the /giphy command. :)

mastermojo 12y ago

skype doesn't have admin/team lead functions that companies typically might want. my skype mobile app crashes all the time. also inline gifs are cool.

curiously 12y ago
could be a bad phone. my skype mobile app used to crash all the time but I switched to a faster Android phone and its smooth.

minitech 12y ago

Skype is really bad for text chat. - It is closed-source, obfuscated, and untrustworthy overall (https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard). - The supported (Windows and Mac) versions have obnoxious ads, and the Linux version is buggy and 32-bit-only. - Since it’s P2P-ish (which makes sense for audio and video calls), you can’t send a message to someone who’s offline and expect them to be notified (say, via e-mail, which Slack does). Worse, if you go offline, they won’t get it until you’re both on at the same time! - Files shared on Skype don’t last. You have to use an external service. - There is no permanent archive; logs are client-side and easy to lose. (You can get messages that are a few days old from peers, but there’s a limit – I don’t know exactly where.)

zkhalique 12y ago
- It is closed-source, obfuscated, and untrustworthy overall (https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard). and Streak is open source? - The supported (Windows and Mac) versions have obnoxious ads, and the Linux version is buggy and 32-bit-only. I have the Mac version of Skype, where are the ads? - Since it’s P2P-ish (which makes sense for audio and video calls), you can’t send a message to someone who’s offline and expect them to be notified (say, via e-mail, which Slack does). Worse, if you go offline, they won’t get it until you’re both on at the same time! This part is true, it's pretty limited. - Files shared on Skype don’t last. You have to use an external service. Skype is more P2P - There is no permanent archive; logs are client-side and easy to lose. (You can get messages that are a few days old from peers, but there’s a limit – I don’t know exactly where.) Skype is for encrypted P2P communication. Why not just use IRC?
- minitech 12y ago
  Yes, I know. What point are you trying to make here? curiously asked: > is there anything that slack does you can't do with skype? So I named some things. Mostly being not P2P. I also prefer IRC over Slack, although you do need to have some system in place for staying connected all the time or receiving logs to make it workable for everyone. Anyway, re: your points: > and Streak is open source? Slack? No, but I don’t have to allow arbitrary code to run free on my computer to use it. > I have the Mac version of Skype, where are the ads? Maybe they’re gone. Windows certainly still has them. > etcetera Sure, it’s P2P. That’s a fine excuse, but it also doesn’t make Skype good.

tomjen3 12y ago

Yeah, about 90%. Slack is many-to-many entities real-time-optional communication, where one particular subset is that all entities are humans and it is entirely real-time. That subset is handled, badly as always, by Skype.

barce 12y ago

Yes, the /giphy command. :)