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Decadence. People don't care about civil rights, because those rights don't seem to have anything to do with the lifestyle cults that people are involved in.

Decadence. People don't care about civil rights, because those rights don't seem to have anything to do with the lifestyle cults that people are involved in. In Australia, particularly, where the idea of having 'a great lifestyle' trumps all other civic involvement, it should be no surprise that nobody cares - as long as you can drive to the new mall on the weekends for a bit of air-conditioned consumer protection, can watch all the latest crap from the UK/USA on television every day, and can generally just kick back and relax and enjoy 'the good life', who cares what rights are taken from you? As long as "I've got mine", where "mine" is variously defined by corporate masters whose marketing-mind-control rules every aspect of that lifestyle, in an ultimately feudal system, nobody really gives a shit ..

kardos 12y ago
I wonder if this is what you really believe, or if you're a shill paid to perpetuate this line of thinking to discourage/disillusion people who care about their rights. Sure, some people don't care and are blissfully caught up in a manufactured world of consumerism, but that does not generalise to the rest of the population.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  I'm an Australian who is quite disappointed with his culture - call it cultural-cringe, if you will - and who finds the never-ending encroachment of strip-mall/parking-lot/tract-houses across the beautiful Australian landscape a real travesty. The cookie-cutter homes, the non-stop "New Thing™" to which the Australian Now-generation are endlessly upgrading, and so on. This is all very disappointing to have observed over many decades now. So .. no .. I'm no paid shill, mate - I truly think that Australia is a dystopian nightmare society, caught in a trance of consumption and lifestyle, and which I find less and less appealing as I get older. I'd love to see Australians care more about their rights - maybe you can enlighten me as to where and when that is happening? All I see is loss of interest, and a desire to simply keep calm and carry on, while it all gets eroded towards the feudal master-plan: Sell the resources, keep the change, and don't .. at any cost .. acknowledge the failure of modern Australian civilization to address the wrongs enacted on the natives, newcomers, and boat people.
  - amyjess 12y ago
    The fact that you can post here and complain proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't live in "a dystopian nightmare society". If you were North Korean or Burmese, and you said that about your country, you'd be dead or in a labor camp in a heartbeat. All I see is a bitter person spreading FUD because you don't approve of how other people live their lives.
    - fit2rule 12y ago
      Oh, I for sure think that North Korea and Burma are also terrible countries. If you want to talk about that, we can do that. But, staying on the subject .. please, enlighten me: how are the Australian people not losing their rights due to their own ignorance? So far, all I see is disinterest in the subject. Total surveillance: this is okay with you?
amyjess 12y ago
The right to live one's lifestyle is by far and above the most important right anyone can have. I'm a transgender lesbian. I live in a city with comprehensive LGBT protections. I live the kind of life I want. I have far more rights protected now than I did ten years ago. The rights I actually care about are protected. It's no coincidence that the people who complain the loudest about "corporate masters" and make stuff up about how the west has become "dystopian" and "totalitarian" are the exact same people who want to get rid of LGBT protections. All this complaining about your "rights" being taken away is just code for whining that people in groups you don't belong to are having their rights protected for the first time. I'm sick and tired of this anti-consumerist circlejerk.

kardos 12y ago

I wonder if this is what you really believe, or if you're a shill paid to perpetuate this line of thinking to discourage/disillusion people who care about their rights. Sure, some people don't care and are blissfully caught up in a manufactured world of consumerism, but that does not generalise to the rest of the population.

fit2rule 12y ago
I'm an Australian who is quite disappointed with his culture - call it cultural-cringe, if you will - and who finds the never-ending encroachment of strip-mall/parking-lot/tract-houses across the beautiful Australian landscape a real travesty. The cookie-cutter homes, the non-stop "New Thing™" to which the Australian Now-generation are endlessly upgrading, and so on. This is all very disappointing to have observed over many decades now. So .. no .. I'm no paid shill, mate - I truly think that Australia is a dystopian nightmare society, caught in a trance of consumption and lifestyle, and which I find less and less appealing as I get older. I'd love to see Australians care more about their rights - maybe you can enlighten me as to where and when that is happening? All I see is loss of interest, and a desire to simply keep calm and carry on, while it all gets eroded towards the feudal master-plan: Sell the resources, keep the change, and don't .. at any cost .. acknowledge the failure of modern Australian civilization to address the wrongs enacted on the natives, newcomers, and boat people.
- amyjess 12y ago
  The fact that you can post here and complain proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't live in "a dystopian nightmare society". If you were North Korean or Burmese, and you said that about your country, you'd be dead or in a labor camp in a heartbeat. All I see is a bitter person spreading FUD because you don't approve of how other people live their lives.
  - fit2rule 12y ago
    Oh, I for sure think that North Korea and Burma are also terrible countries. If you want to talk about that, we can do that. But, staying on the subject .. please, enlighten me: how are the Australian people not losing their rights due to their own ignorance? So far, all I see is disinterest in the subject. Total surveillance: this is okay with you?

amyjess 12y ago

The right to live one's lifestyle is by far and above the most important right anyone can have. I'm a transgender lesbian. I live in a city with comprehensive LGBT protections. I live the kind of life I want. I have far more rights protected now than I did ten years ago. The rights I actually care about are protected. It's no coincidence that the people who complain the loudest about "corporate masters" and make stuff up about how the west has become "dystopian" and "totalitarian" are the exact same people who want to get rid of LGBT protections. All this complaining about your "rights" being taken away is just code for whining that people in groups you don't belong to are having their rights protected for the first time. I'm sick and tired of this anti-consumerist circlejerk.