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There is no LAND crisis. There is a crisis of failure to build adequate number of multi-family multi-story structures. Replace all the decrepit almost dead 2

There is no LAND crisis. There is a crisis of failure to build adequate number of multi-family multi-story structures. Replace all the decrepit almost dead 2 story apartments in SF with 10 story apartments and there would be no crisis whatsoever.

trhway 12y ago
>Replace all the decrepit almost dead 2 story apartments in SF with ... that's was doable back in the USSR and doable today in China. In US it may be easier to build right in the ocean :) For building huge structures 10-20m depth is almost like land and you get added benefit of being able to plan and build all the infrastructure from scratch instead of trying to upgrade and be constricted by the limits of the old. You can build another San Francisco sized city near by just at the cost of the steel and concrete it takes. Smaller number of square miles with 100+ stories high interconnected structure(s) - of any shape/form one can come up with as without historic parcelization you wouldn't be limited to the narrow tall buildings of the standard cities. >10 story apartments and there would be no crisis whatsoever. how about infrastructure? water/sewer/electricity/roads?
- wmf 12y ago
  NIMBYs won't allow building in the bay anyway since it would block their view.
  - trhway 12y ago
    i meant out in the ocean, not in the Bay. Of course many people would oppose it while i'm sure that many would like a view of a Millenium Gate style tower or some other tall structure(s) rising majestically from ocean several miles off the coast. Anyway, it would require state and federal political will to deal with the opposition. Of course it isn't realistic, i was just talking about it as a benchmark to compare other efforts against.
panic 12y ago
Replace all the decrepit almost dead 2 story apartments in SF with 10 story apartments and there would be no crisis whatsoever. Well, you'd get a different sort of crisis, where plunging rents would make landlords unable to cover the cost of the new construction. I agree that we need more housing, though.

trhway 12y ago

>Replace all the decrepit almost dead 2 story apartments in SF with ... that's was doable back in the USSR and doable today in China. In US it may be easier to build right in the ocean :) For building huge structures 10-20m depth is almost like land and you get added benefit of being able to plan and build all the infrastructure from scratch instead of trying to upgrade and be constricted by the limits of the old. You can build another San Francisco sized city near by just at the cost of the steel and concrete it takes. Smaller number of square miles with 100+ stories high interconnected structure(s) - of any shape/form one can come up with as without historic parcelization you wouldn't be limited to the narrow tall buildings of the standard cities. >10 story apartments and there would be no crisis whatsoever. how about infrastructure? water/sewer/electricity/roads?

wmf 12y ago
NIMBYs won't allow building in the bay anyway since it would block their view.
- trhway 12y ago
  i meant out in the ocean, not in the Bay. Of course many people would oppose it while i'm sure that many would like a view of a Millenium Gate style tower or some other tall structure(s) rising majestically from ocean several miles off the coast. Anyway, it would require state and federal political will to deal with the opposition. Of course it isn't realistic, i was just talking about it as a benchmark to compare other efforts against.

panic 12y ago

Replace all the decrepit almost dead 2 story apartments in SF with 10 story apartments and there would be no crisis whatsoever. Well, you'd get a different sort of crisis, where plunging rents would make landlords unable to cover the cost of the new construction. I agree that we need more housing, though.