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Because you have to put a limit somewhere before people start to exploit it.

by Bhullnatik 12y ago

deveac 12y ago
That's reasonable. So is stating the limit instead of saying it doesn't exist. But I get it. Marketing.
prof_hobart 12y ago
If you need to put a limit, then don't claim it's unlimited. The problem is with the marketing, not the cap itself.
- pyre 12y ago
  How do you market a variable cap where the actual value of the cap is a moving target depending on the circumstances?
  - vidarh 12y ago
    That should not be our problem. If they find that difficult to communicate without lying (by calling it "unlimited"), perhaps they should set a non-variable cap.
  - Lawtonfogle 12y ago
    Market it based on the rules by which it moves.
  - prof_hobart 12y ago
    That's something they are already presumably doing (it's what "fair usage" equates to), and isn't the problem. The problem is making the marketing claim that this is "unlimited" when it's not. Call it "almost unlimited" or something similar and you're fine.
Karunamon 12y ago
In which case it's not unlimited, in which case they're lying. The first person who gets kicked off for this should file a false advertising suit. The marketing doesn't get to give you something which the ToS immediately takes away. Maybe then these idiots (yes, idiots, because it takes an astounding lack of either morals or intelligence) will learn that lying to your customers is not okay.
- chrisper 12y ago
  It is Unlimited^. ^Conditions and Restrictions apply.
  - Karunamon 12y ago
    That's still contradictory. Unlimited means "without limits", not "without limits except for these". Verizon got smacked around for exactly this behavior a while ago (selling "unlimited" data, with throttling after some arbitrary cap). This is not substantially different.
- tashoecraft 12y ago
  It's not lying, come on. 99.9% of people will see it as being unlimited. The person who decides to create a megaupload clone and use it to store petabytes worth of stuff that is constantly reading and writing is not what personal unlimited storage is meant for.
  - Lawtonfogle 12y ago
    >It's not lying, come on. Yes it is.
- jasonlotito 12y ago
  Other "idiots" that are "lying" about "unlimited" and should be sued for "false advertising." https://github.com/pricing https://github.com/pricing https://www.dropbox.com/plans https://www.dropbox.com/plans https://www.google.com/work/apps/business/driveforwork/ https://www.google.com/work/apps/business/driveforwork/ https://www.box.com/pricing/ https://www.box.com/pricing/
company 12y ago
Do people not really understand it? Man half of HN is childish.

Because you have to put a limit somewhere before people start to exploit it.

deveac 12y ago

That's reasonable. So is stating the limit instead of saying it doesn't exist. But I get it. Marketing.

prof_hobart 12y ago

If you need to put a limit, then don't claim it's unlimited. The problem is with the marketing, not the cap itself.

pyre 12y ago
How do you market a variable cap where the actual value of the cap is a moving target depending on the circumstances?
- vidarh 12y ago
  That should not be our problem. If they find that difficult to communicate without lying (by calling it "unlimited"), perhaps they should set a non-variable cap.
- Lawtonfogle 12y ago
  Market it based on the rules by which it moves.
- prof_hobart 12y ago
  That's something they are already presumably doing (it's what "fair usage" equates to), and isn't the problem. The problem is making the marketing claim that this is "unlimited" when it's not. Call it "almost unlimited" or something similar and you're fine.

Karunamon 12y ago

In which case it's not unlimited, in which case they're lying. The first person who gets kicked off for this should file a false advertising suit. The marketing doesn't get to give you something which the ToS immediately takes away. Maybe then these idiots (yes, idiots, because it takes an astounding lack of either morals or intelligence) will learn that lying to your customers is not okay.

chrisper 12y ago
It is Unlimited^. ^Conditions and Restrictions apply.
- Karunamon 12y ago
  That's still contradictory. Unlimited means "without limits", not "without limits except for these". Verizon got smacked around for exactly this behavior a while ago (selling "unlimited" data, with throttling after some arbitrary cap). This is not substantially different.
tashoecraft 12y ago
It's not lying, come on. 99.9% of people will see it as being unlimited. The person who decides to create a megaupload clone and use it to store petabytes worth of stuff that is constantly reading and writing is not what personal unlimited storage is meant for.
- Lawtonfogle 12y ago
  >It's not lying, come on. Yes it is.
jasonlotito 12y ago
Other "idiots" that are "lying" about "unlimited" and should be sued for "false advertising." https://github.com/pricing https://github.com/pricing https://www.dropbox.com/plans https://www.dropbox.com/plans https://www.google.com/work/apps/business/driveforwork/ https://www.google.com/work/apps/business/driveforwork/ https://www.box.com/pricing/ https://www.box.com/pricing/

company 12y ago

Do people not really understand it? Man half of HN is childish.