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Yeah I was being hyperbolic, but my point still stands. The LARGE majority of developers have accepted unix as their overlord, and that poses a huge problem to

Yeah I was being hyperbolic, but my point still stands. The LARGE majority of developers have accepted unix as their overlord, and that poses a huge problem to microsoft as they're a second thought. They're forced to try to fit new frameworks into their ecosystem, rather than on unix where developers expect it to run. I see it ultimately as damage control. With the overwhelming majority of developers on unix, you're not going to see microsoft hang out in the server market for very long. I think they'll hang onto the office crowd, but nothing on the backend. This, of course, is just the opinion of a 20 year old unix nerd, who became one because his father is a microsoft fanboy. I rebelled in my teenage years by infuriating my father and installing linux. I still think I raise some valid points.

WorldWideWayne 12y ago
What evidence do you have that the majority of developers are on Unix? Just web devs or all devs? I doubt that it's true in either case. IT departments around the world employ programmers to make all sorts of business apps including internet/intranet web apps. Even some very small companies have custom apps to do business and the vast majority of businesses are using Windows.
- scubadude 12y ago
  For the most part, npm packages work fine on both Windows and nix platforms. However, it is pretty clear that most are developed on, and have fewest problems with, nix. I believe that is due to the massive popularity of Macs with the JavaScript-focused web dev crowd.
- joshuapants 12y ago
  There seems to be a common thread on HN of people assuming that trendy startups are the entirety of the software industry.
- NeutronBoy 12y ago
  And this is a great development - it means for future enterprise projects, Node will become a more realistic choice, because it means that using Node on a project doesn't require orgs to build entirely new infrastructure to support * nix deployments or dev environments.
int_19h 12y ago
What makes you think that Microsoft can't have a part of the Unix server slice, either? Have you seen e.g. this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-open-source.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is... (specifically the part that says "We will be adding Linux and Mac implementations of platform-specific components over the next few months.") Or the part where ASP.NET vNext runs on Mono as the officially supported platform? http://graemechristie.github.io/graemechristie/blog/2014/05/26/asp-dot-net-vnext-on-osx-and-linux/ http://graemechristie.github.io/graemechristie/blog/2014/05/...

WorldWideWayne 12y ago

What evidence do you have that the majority of developers are on Unix? Just web devs or all devs? I doubt that it's true in either case. IT departments around the world employ programmers to make all sorts of business apps including internet/intranet web apps. Even some very small companies have custom apps to do business and the vast majority of businesses are using Windows.

scubadude 12y ago
For the most part, npm packages work fine on both Windows and nix platforms. However, it is pretty clear that most are developed on, and have fewest problems with, nix. I believe that is due to the massive popularity of Macs with the JavaScript-focused web dev crowd.
joshuapants 12y ago
There seems to be a common thread on HN of people assuming that trendy startups are the entirety of the software industry.
NeutronBoy 12y ago
And this is a great development - it means for future enterprise projects, Node will become a more realistic choice, because it means that using Node on a project doesn't require orgs to build entirely new infrastructure to support * nix deployments or dev environments.

int_19h 12y ago

What makes you think that Microsoft can't have a part of the Unix server slice, either? Have you seen e.g. this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-open-source.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is... (specifically the part that says "We will be adding Linux and Mac implementations of platform-specific components over the next few months.") Or the part where ASP.NET vNext runs on Mono as the officially supported platform? http://graemechristie.github.io/graemechristie/blog/2014/05/26/asp-dot-net-vnext-on-osx-and-linux/ http://graemechristie.github.io/graemechristie/blog/2014/05/...