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It is different because in the case of Commodore 64/Windows/$thirdParty, the developer can do releases, pricing, refunds, etc outside of Apple's control.

lozf 12y ago
... and without giving them a third of the profit (or is it revenue?)
- madeofpalk 12y ago
  Apple takes 30% of revenue. To be fair, Apple handles a lot for that 30%. Accounting/Tax records, payment, bandwidth and storage etc. They could probably afford to take less, but they do take care of a fare bit of hassle from app distribution and selling.
  - Crito 12y ago
    > "To be fair, Apple handles a lot for that 30%. Accounting/Tax records, payment, bandwidth and storage etc." I think people would have a better opinion on that deal if it were optional. Apple offers to take care of billing/bandwidth/storage on iOS for 30% of revenue? Neat! Apple demands to take care of billing/bandwidth/storage on iOS for 30% of revenue? Lame.
    - happyscrappy 12y ago
      It is optional, we use Stripe, Apple gets nothing. I am surprised there are people in software that don't know this.
      - Crito 12y ago
        I can sell an app on Apple's appstore without Apple getting a 30% cut if I use stripe? Do you have a source for that that you can link me to? Because from this, I get the impression that is not the case: https://support.stripe.com/questions/apple-and-stripe-tos-and-fees https://support.stripe.com/questions/apple-and-stripe-tos-an...
      - madeofpalk 12y ago
        No you are incorrect: If you want to sell an app for iOS, it needs to go through the App Store, and it needs to go through Apple's payment processor, be hosted by them etc, and Apple will take 30%. There are 'work arounds' that involve being enrolled in the Enterprise Developer Program, but you're still at Apple's mercy. If they believe you're not sticking 'to the spirit of the program' (e.g. using it just to get around the App Store) they'll terminate.
        happyscrappy 12y ago
        Do you really believe Netflix is giving 30% to Apple?
        madeofpalk 12y ago
        You can't pay for Netflix from their iOS app.
      - chubs 12y ago
        I can confirm this, it is true. Basically, your app is not allowed to have any links to sign up, or to your website, and you can do this for eg a SaaS app. The idea is that then you're not using the app store for marketing, it's only for servicing your existing users.

lozf 12y ago

... and without giving them a third of the profit (or is it revenue?)

madeofpalk 12y ago
Apple takes 30% of revenue. To be fair, Apple handles a lot for that 30%. Accounting/Tax records, payment, bandwidth and storage etc. They could probably afford to take less, but they do take care of a fare bit of hassle from app distribution and selling.
- Crito 12y ago
  > "To be fair, Apple handles a lot for that 30%. Accounting/Tax records, payment, bandwidth and storage etc." I think people would have a better opinion on that deal if it were optional. Apple offers to take care of billing/bandwidth/storage on iOS for 30% of revenue? Neat! Apple demands to take care of billing/bandwidth/storage on iOS for 30% of revenue? Lame.
  - happyscrappy 12y ago
    It is optional, we use Stripe, Apple gets nothing. I am surprised there are people in software that don't know this.
    - Crito 12y ago
      I can sell an app on Apple's appstore without Apple getting a 30% cut if I use stripe? Do you have a source for that that you can link me to? Because from this, I get the impression that is not the case: https://support.stripe.com/questions/apple-and-stripe-tos-and-fees https://support.stripe.com/questions/apple-and-stripe-tos-an...
    - madeofpalk 12y ago
      No you are incorrect: If you want to sell an app for iOS, it needs to go through the App Store, and it needs to go through Apple's payment processor, be hosted by them etc, and Apple will take 30%. There are 'work arounds' that involve being enrolled in the Enterprise Developer Program, but you're still at Apple's mercy. If they believe you're not sticking 'to the spirit of the program' (e.g. using it just to get around the App Store) they'll terminate.
      - happyscrappy 12y ago
        Do you really believe Netflix is giving 30% to Apple?
        madeofpalk 12y ago
        You can't pay for Netflix from their iOS app.
    - chubs 12y ago
      I can confirm this, it is true. Basically, your app is not allowed to have any links to sign up, or to your website, and you can do this for eg a SaaS app. The idea is that then you're not using the app store for marketing, it's only for servicing your existing users.