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That's a good thing to clarify. It's not an open core system like Mac OS X. SmartDataCenter is open source and Triton is our product branding. https://github.co

by lloydde 12y ago

That's a good thing to clarify. It's not an open core system like Mac OS X. SmartDataCenter is open source and Triton is our product branding. https://github.com/joyent/sdc https://github.com/joyent/sdc There is work in progress to clean up and open source the self-serve portal and its dependencies. The propriety bits are not ours: "The Joyent SDC USB images offered to our customers contain certain firmware binaries for use with Joyent-branded hardware. We cannot make that software generally available in the open source builds; however, it is available to all who have purchased Joyent-branded hardware and is of no use without that hardware." https://docs.joyent.com/sdc7/obtaining-software https://docs.joyent.com/sdc7/obtaining-software

DannoHung 12y ago
What does the bit about security patches and minor and major updates mean? The Product version includes automatic updates and the open source version you manage yourself? Or something else?
- lloydde 12y ago
  Would you quote the bits here, so I can clarify with the product side of the house? We have not and never will let anything jeopardize the continued security of any SDC deployments. SDC having update channels is under active development: 'As of sdcadm version 1.5.5 and the release-20150319, SmartDataCenter has preliminary support for update "channels". A "channel" is separate stream of built SDC components with different stability characteristics.' https://github.com/joyent/sdc/blob/master/docs/operator-guide/update.md https://github.com/joyent/sdc/blob/master/docs/operator-guid... I image that the support channel will be the most conservative.
  - DannoHung 12y ago
    The check-marks at the end of the page here, which compares Joyent Triton to Open Source SmartDataCenter: https://www.joyent.com/private-cloud https://www.joyent.com/private-cloud Maintenance and Upgrades Minor and major upgrades
    - lloydde 12y ago
      Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Having seen how proactive our support team is and active in seeing customer's through maintenance and upgrades, my guess is that is the context. All the information and technology is there in SDC. Without Joyent Support, it would require riding the change logs and announcements and taking it fully into your hands. https://github.com/joyent/sdc#community https://github.com/joyent/sdc#community
themgt 12y ago
But what you're branding Triton in fact appears to be a PaaS GUI on top of SDC? i.e. the way people manage their containers/hw in Triton the service, is not available in SDC which seems to be all CLI tools?
- lloydde 12y ago
  As the Docker Engine for SDC is being developed to the Docker API and CLI, Triton can be used through any Docker ux. https://github.com/joyent/sdc-docker/blob/master/docs/divergence.md https://github.com/joyent/sdc-docker/blob/master/docs/diverg... The interesting bits are not the self-serve portal. The portal is good for introducing the stack and supplementing the experience, but few use a portal for infrastructure management -- they require more automation, specific to their business. We're working hard on getting the self-server portal code architecture and hygiene up to open sourcing it. From there we can get these portal plugins open as well. Our on-prem customers are hungry for this, as many of them have a mandate for OSS.

by lloydde 12y ago

DannoHung 12y ago

What does the bit about security patches and minor and major updates mean? The Product version includes automatic updates and the open source version you manage yourself? Or something else?

lloydde 12y ago
Would you quote the bits here, so I can clarify with the product side of the house? We have not and never will let anything jeopardize the continued security of any SDC deployments. SDC having update channels is under active development: 'As of sdcadm version 1.5.5 and the release-20150319, SmartDataCenter has preliminary support for update "channels". A "channel" is separate stream of built SDC components with different stability characteristics.' https://github.com/joyent/sdc/blob/master/docs/operator-guide/update.md https://github.com/joyent/sdc/blob/master/docs/operator-guid... I image that the support channel will be the most conservative.
- DannoHung 12y ago
  The check-marks at the end of the page here, which compares Joyent Triton to Open Source SmartDataCenter: https://www.joyent.com/private-cloud https://www.joyent.com/private-cloud Maintenance and Upgrades Minor and major upgrades
  - lloydde 12y ago
    Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Having seen how proactive our support team is and active in seeing customer's through maintenance and upgrades, my guess is that is the context. All the information and technology is there in SDC. Without Joyent Support, it would require riding the change logs and announcements and taking it fully into your hands. https://github.com/joyent/sdc#community https://github.com/joyent/sdc#community

themgt 12y ago

But what you're branding Triton in fact appears to be a PaaS GUI on top of SDC? i.e. the way people manage their containers/hw in Triton the service, is not available in SDC which seems to be all CLI tools?

lloydde 12y ago
As the Docker Engine for SDC is being developed to the Docker API and CLI, Triton can be used through any Docker ux. https://github.com/joyent/sdc-docker/blob/master/docs/divergence.md https://github.com/joyent/sdc-docker/blob/master/docs/diverg... The interesting bits are not the self-serve portal. The portal is good for introducing the stack and supplementing the experience, but few use a portal for infrastructure management -- they require more automation, specific to their business. We're working hard on getting the self-server portal code architecture and hygiene up to open sourcing it. From there we can get these portal plugins open as well. Our on-prem customers are hungry for this, as many of them have a mandate for OSS.