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http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.1603 http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.1603, version of the paper not behind a paywall. The phys.org summary is light on mathematical details
by bjwbell 12y ago
http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.1603 http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.1603, version of the paper not behind a paywall.
The phys.org summary is light on mathematical details. The actual paper is very readable & if you have a math or physics background more understandable, e.g. the paper says six-wave interactions are responsible for "effective irreversible transfer of energy" but the phys.org summary leaves out "effective" (making the phys.org summary confusing IMO).
- mkesper 12y agoThe described phenomenon remembered me of giant waves called rogue waves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave.
- peterfirefly 12y agoremembered → reminded. Are you French?
- jstoiko 12y agoWhat does French have to do with this? In French, it would read: "m'a rappelé" = "reminded me".
- talideon 12y agopeterfirefly might be thinking of "se souvenir (de)".
- jstoiko 12y agoIt wouldn't make sense in the context of the sentence. "Le phénomène décrit me souvient..." would sound wrong in the ear of a native french speaker.
- talideon 12y agoYup, but you need to take into account semantic confusion by a native speaker of one language with words in another language. In this case, peterfirefly might have been thinking of 'se souvenir (de)' and mkesper might have been translating 'se rappeler', but confused 'remind oneself' and 'remember', which is pretty easy to do and explains the mistranslation.
- peterfirefly 12y agoI don't know what actually goes through their heads but it is a mistake I have seen from French speakers before.
- breakingcups 12y agoThis is something that could happen in Dutch, as we have one word for both.
- jakobegger 12y agoSame in German: "sich erinnern"
- musername 12y agoas far as i'm concerned, remember (sth) is active and reflexive whereas remind sb (of sth) is passive, so it's not easily confused.
- Luisvel 12y agoSame thing in Spanish.
- tomca32 12y agoThis is common in many languages. The other similar example being to learn -> to teach. I always hear foreigners (including me, Croatian) messing those up.
- saalweachter 12y agoPerhaps the GP meant 'remembered [to] me...'. That form still has some use in English, eg: Are you going to Scarborough Fair? Parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme; Remember me to the one who lives there, For once she was a true love of mine.
- peterfirefly 12y agoI meant nothing negative by it. I was just curious. Sometimes people have a small "accent" in writing even when their English is pretty good. Germans sometimes write 'as' when they mean '(something) like' or 'than' because of the German word 'als'. French and Germans sometimes write "I've been doing it since 12 years" instead of "I've been doing it for 12 years" because of the words 'dépuis' and 'seit'. Danes usually mess up the verbs by getting the number and person wrong (because modern Danish uses the same form for all {singular, plural} × {1st, 2nd, 3rd} combinations). Spanish speakers sometimes leave out personal pronouns (because they can be inferred from the verb form in Spanish). And so on and so forth.
- mkesper 12y agoLol, strange how my mistake produced it's own subthread here. And no, I'm german. In hindsight, it felt quirky but I didn't recheck that sentence.