> Therefore it's important to me that you not get downvoted. So I'm trying to help you get listened to, by telling you why I find myself wanting to reach for th

> Therefore it's important to me that you not get downvoted. So I'm trying to help you get listened to, by telling you why I find myself wanting to reach for the downvote button—but the things you say are important enough that they deserve being engaged with, even if the manner in which you say it is frustrating. Well, I appreciate that, thanks. I also appreciate that you decided to engage in actual honest discussion.