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'Mountaineer' Is a Must-Read of Soviet Sci-Fi
- genericuser 12y agoTitle is missing a word which makes it a bit cryptic. Is A Must-Read Of
- willvarfar 12y agoTangentially related, soviet-era sci-fi illustrations (mostly of the space race and the era the brothers departed from) is really great! There are lots of articles at http://www.darkroastedblend.com http://www.darkroastedblend.com
- pandaman 12y agoThis is an interesting book to translate to English. Glebsky is trying to determine the gender of Brune for the half of the book and this involves trying to make him/her to talk about oneself in the past. In Russian verbs are inflected with gender only in the past tense so somebody speaking about oneself in the past will have to inflect verbs with one's own gender but there is no gender specific grammar for the present and future. Did they do something clever in the translation or just dropped this plot line?
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoI'm wondering about the translator too. Name: Josh Billings, who is a famous (sort of ) American jokester. Is this a real translation? Or someone pretending to be a pair of Russian brother writers?
- BerislavLopac 12y agoHow do you mean "pretending"?
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoTranslator name is an alias; maybe that's a clue that they're not real. So what could they be? An author pretending to be a translator...
- ableal 12y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Billings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Billings The article mentions, by photo, two others of a trio of 19th century American humorists - Mark Twain and Petroleum V. Nasby. All three are pen names ...
- peterdn 12y agoI just finished reading the book. Although it does appear, the linguistic subtlety you mention is lost in translation and I'd have found that particular passage confusing if I hadn't read your comment first. In short, at one point Glebsky figures he can definitively discover Brun's gender by asking him/her a question such that the answer would be something like "I had a nibble" or "I wolfed down two sandwiches". In the text, it's left unclear how one could infer gender from such answers.
- pandaman 12y agoI see, thanks. The translator probably tried to replace this with the differences in male/female vocabulary. In the original it is all through the book as, without knowing the gender, Glebsky is pretty limited in the ways he can speak to or about Brune and he reflects on this quite a lot.
- baldfat 12y agoThe only Russian Sci-Fi I have read was Roadside Picnic. I REALLY enjoyed it in multiple of different layers. Was nice to read a book fromt he cold war on the "other side" from where I grew up. I need toadd this title to my list.
- joshuapants 12y agoRoadside Picnic was really chilling. I'll definitely add this to my list as well. Do you know of any recommended reading lists for Soviet/Eastern Bloc scifi?
- vbezhenar 12y agoI would recommend to read almost all of Strugatsky brothers books (which were translated to your language). They are all very interesting in different aspects. E.g. "Monday starts at Saturday" is a humorous story about programmer. Though they dreamed of communistic future, keep that in mind. Their worlds probably will look foreign to the western reader. And there are some references to the russian culture. But translations probably should take that in mind.
- trhway 12y ago>Though they dreamed of communistic future, keep that in mind. Their worlds probably will look foreign to the western reader. except for may be the earliest works, their communist future isn't that different from for example the "self-betterment" world of StarTrek, and serves basically as just a setting.
- detaro 12y agoStanislaw Lem
- huhtenberg 12y agoLem is excellent. GP, start with "Tales of Pirx the Pilot". Short stories with a great mix of interesting story lines, pragmatic view of the world and dry humor.
- starrychloe 12y agoI liked Kin-Dza-Dza http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2659374/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2659374/ and the remake.
- talideon 12y agoIt, and a bunch of other Soviet movies are available on the Mosfilm channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/mosfilm https://www.youtube.com/user/mosfilm Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47CNxwlt9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47CNxwlt9U Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eti9Qn4bZDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eti9Qn4bZDg
- ciupicri 12y agoI saw the original, but I wasn't impressed. It was too plain and gloomy for me.
- pavel_lishin 12y agoYou (and others) might enjoy Alex Andreev's work - very clearly inspired by the Kin Dza Dza aesthetic. He also has a lot of stuff that's pretty clearly inspired by Picnic/Stalker. http://www.alexandreev.com/ http://www.alexandreev.com/
- nivertech 12y agotwo versions of "It's hard to be a God" (in Russian) one from 1989, another from 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_D_eI6KMQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_D_eI6KMQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoyjleXFz0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoyjleXFz0 The final scene in 1989 movie is clearly influenced by Dune (1984). Likeiwse it's clear that this movie influenced modern American/Canadian Sci-Fi series like Stargate Atlantis [1] and Defiance [2]. I.e. both Wraith and Votan look like noblemen from "It's hard to be a God" (1989). [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wraith_%28Stargate%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wraith_%28Stargate%29 [2] http://en.defiance-wiki.com/wiki/Votan http://en.defiance-wiki.com/wiki/Votan
- fractallyte 12y agoThe definitive collection of Soviet SF was Macmillan's 'Best of Soviet Science Fiction', published in the early 1980s. It comprised a mix of novels (by the Strugatskys, among others), and short story collections. I count a significant number of these as being among the finest SF I've yet come across. Many envelope the reader in an air of melancholy; very Bradburyesque. Here's a description of one of the notable authors, from "World's Spring", edited by Vladimir Gakov: "Genrikh Altov is one of the most interesting portraits in the gallery of Soviet science fiction writers. An engineer and inventor who holds several dozen patents; the creator of a new science on which special courses are now being given in educational institutions in the USSR, 'The Theory of Invention,' and the author of several monographs in this field; an SF fan and the author of the unparalleled (I vote for a special Hugo Award!) Altov's Register - a catalog of themes, plots, hypotheses, ideas, situations, etc., containing hundreds of thousands of processed bits of information. (The dream of the SF writer: an idea comes to you, so you check it out in the Register to see if it has been used before; if the idea has been 'copyrighted' by another writer, it's no great problem, because the Register contains open cells, the descriptions of still-unused sf ideas and situations.) A theoretician of the sf genre; the author of profound articles tracing the sf predictions of Wells, Verne, Alexander Beliaev... A teacher at a scientific research institute teaching young inventors to develop their imaginations, their ability not to be afraid of 'crazy' ideas..." There's also a stunning novel in the series: "Self Discovery", by Vladimir Savchenko. It has a completely convincing description of a biological computer AI. And then, this: "I would like to study the question of the untapped resources of man's organism. For example, the obsolescent functions, like our common ancestor's ability to leap from tree to tree or to sleep in the branches. Now that is no longer necessary, but the cells are still there. Or take the 'goosebump' phenomenon - it happens on skin that has almost no hair now. It is created by a vast nervous network. Perhaps these old reflexes can be restructured, re-programmed to meet new needs?" (In Theodore Sturgeon's words: "What an astonishing, what an exciting concept!") Best of all, that book is freely available online: http://www.lib.ru/RUFANT/SAWCHENKO/savchenko_selfdiscovery_ok-engl.txt http://www.lib.ru/RUFANT/SAWCHENKO/savchenko_selfdiscovery_o...
- avmich 12y agoDon't forget Ivan Efremov's works. E.g. "Andromeda Nebula".
- huhtenberg 12y agoFrom the post-Soviet selection, Labyrinth of Reflections is a superb cyberpunk novel. Not sure if there's an official English translation though (but there is a German one). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Reflections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Reflections
- anigbrowl 12y agoThe actual name of the book is 'The Dead Mountaineer's Inn.' What is it with American journalists that they feel it's OK to just change the titles of things to make a snappy headline? I've never seen this behavior in any other country's media. I find it incredibly disrespectful.
- StavrosK 12y agoIt's like a nickname, you refer to a long title with the most descriptive word in it. However, when a book is obscure, this practice does it a disservice.
- scintill76 12y agoI've seen this more commonly when a writer has already written the full title earlier in the article. It does seem strange and unhelpful to do it in a headline about an obscure (to the audience) book.
- PerfectDlite 12y ago> I've never seen this behavior in any other country's media. Since Russia was already mentioned here, you can take a look at Russian media, it's a common practice there.
- JoeAltmaier 12y agoCan't mention Science Fiction without mentioning Stanslaw Lem - who was clever enough to write around and past the censors.
- detaro 12y agoThey basically all had to do this. In a bunch of my German Strugatzki books there are a few snippets about the history of the works where they talk about how they worked around it (and sometimes rather didn't publish stuff than to kill it). The techniques are the same as "always" (you find exactly the same if you look at old movies in the US): Don't say the important things explicitly and provide explicit decoys for the censors to latch onto. And have good editors that are willing to fight for you.
- dschiptsov 12y agoMost of their novels are good read. Especially "Hard to Be a God", "Snail on the Slope", "The Ugly Swans", "The Inhabited Island", and, of course, "The Roadside Picnic". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_and_Boris_Strugatsky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_and_Boris_Strugatsky Actually, it was very interesting phenomena, how in age of strict Soviet censure these seemingly Sci Fi books were filled with philosophical, humanitarian and political ideas. Lots of Soviet people grew up on these texts, within these imaginary worlds, which are so much better than harsh Soviet reality. Nowadays, btw, authors of the next generation implant big ideas into what seems to be stories about vampires.)
- senko 12y agoCould you point to a few examples (of the latter)?
- vadman 12y agoBy "stories about vampires" GP probably means Lukyanenko's "* Watch" series: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Lukyanenko#Series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Lukyanenko#Series "Night Watch" the movie made some splashes even in the West, IIRC. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHQsjgQDrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHQsjgQDrA
- atombender 12y agoI also really like the Maxim Kammerer books about the Wanderers, the mysterious, incomprehensibly intelligent alien race that seems to be manipulating the human race from some unseen vantage point. The first novel in this sequence is "Beetle in the Anthill", and continues with "The Time Wanderers". A connection to Roadside Picnic is never made, but it's certainly possible to speculate. (One of the novels you mention, "The Inhabited Islans", is also about Max, and was also published in English as "Prisoners of Power". There is a recent Russian movie adaptation of it that's apparently not bad -- anyone seen it?) There is also a great short story, "Wanderers and Travellers", set within this same continuum. It can be found in the anthology "Paths Into the Unknown". It's a wonderful little gem for anyone who loves Roadside Picnic or the Wanderer novels, or just scifi in general.
- ableal 12y agoSeems that "first-ever English translation" is not quite exact, there was a 1988 version titled Inspector Glebsky's Puzzle: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1053108.Inspector_Glebsky_s_Puzzle http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1053108.Inspector_Glebsky... P.S.: also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Mountaineer's_Hotel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Mountaineer's_Hotel
- Gravityloss 12y agoThere's an Estonian movie about it. I haven't seen it but the music is very haunting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTlISg0Oyv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTlISg0Oyv8