5 ms·
Kind of annoying to read honestly, but I agree with his message and experience. I grew up on the internet and don't know how to happily fit into the world as a
by heurist 12y ago
Kind of annoying to read honestly, but I agree with his message and experience. I grew up on the internet and don't know how to happily fit into the world as a young adult. Have had deep depression and social anxiety for more than a decade, found out I have ADHD, turned to psychedelics out of curiosity and to see if they helped at all. They helped me realize how unsatisfied I am, and the more I take the more unsatisfied I become. But drugs don't change your lifestyle on their own and it still takes a lot of courage to do that, especially when you have a secure tech job. I haven't made that leap yet.
Society is sick, and I don't think the internet is helping. Information overload distracts us from looking into the experiences around and within us; is addictive and keeps us from sleeping or thinking when bored, affecting mood and energy; encourages perpetually increasing productivity without even providing a reason to be productive in the first place (beyond arbitrary societal rules); keeps many of us inside and away from sunlight or fresh air; makes it too easy to jump between shallow interests rather than sticking with one deep interest; and hides us from other people while causing us to see them as phones or handles rather than faces and behaviors. That has been my experience, anyway. There are plenty of other problems caused by misuse of technology but they're well known on this forum.
I used to wonder how people kept themselves from going insane from boredom in pre-agricultural societies. But I realized all the days where I have been most content involved taking in little information and just existing for a while, wandering around in the woods, napping, introspecting, being with friends and family I have deep relationships with, etc. I spent one summer in college almost entirely without the internet while living in a small, close, rustic community. The days seemed to last forever and I had never been so happy or felt so connected to others as an adult. Being in one place for a long time with few other people forced us to develop deeper bonds than we would have outside of a community like that.
I'm not a fan of capitalism, but I think it's a self-correcting problem. Eventually technology WILL automate all of life's difficulties and we will transition back to a simpler and more comfortable way of life as humans. It will be a while until AI gets us there though. Until then we have stimulants, anti-depressants, and anti-anxiety pills to try to hammer in those aspects of humanity that make it hard to fit into contemporary society.
P.S. If you're looking for answers to "life's big questions", here they are: We and everything else are deterministic emergent patterns stemming from the laws of thermodynamics (or whatever fundamental laws exist) and an initial state (or some reference state) of the universe. That's the only solid foundation I have found for my personal philosophical and spiritual inquiries, but I spent a LONG time looking for it. You can easily answer all the big questions with an understanding of that foundation. I have finally been able to move on to smaller but more complex and practical questions without feeling like I'm missing something.
P.P.S Always read the word 'spiritual' as 'relating to the subconscious workings of the mind'. A lot of people use the word 'spiritual' in a vague mystical way, but you can adjust for that with this definition. They may not know how the brain works, but they still have brains and their spiritual experiences can still be fascinating and full of insight.
- ZeroFries 12y agoThough I don't currently suffer from depression or social anxiety, I can relate to much of what you're saying. But, I also feel that small, controlled amounts of computer time can be incredibly educational and even expressive (through art, writing, and programming). The internet helps spread ideas like never before, and you probably wouldn't even have many of your ideas without it. Like everything in life, there are pros and cons, and deciding how this technology fits into your life and community is important. Mindless adoption is the real problem. I do wish modern society had more opportunities for close community though, especially for people who are non-religious or do not view their work as part of their identity.
- heurist 12y agoI totally agree, small amounts are great and I wouldn't have any of my ideas if I hadn't spent so much time learning and connecting random facts via the internet. It's hard for me to limit myself, though. Since I'm a software developer I'm always online, and brain-sucking vortexes are two absentminded clicks away at any given time. That's a big problem I'm trying to fix right now.
- jqm 12y agoI have to say... that was an excellent post. I would have just voted it up and left it at that, but I thought it deserved a little extra. Very good take on the subject.
- heurist 12y agoThank you! That really means a lot to me, I don't get to discuss these ideas often.
- EdwardDiego 12y agoIf you don't mind me asking, determinism precludes free-will, so how does your philosophy reconcile our legal systems, which punish people for their choices? What would you propose in lieu of them (if anything)?