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Yeah, that was my first thought, too. In all my years in networking, I've ran exactly one instance of OpenBGPD and that's used simply for real-time updates of

Yeah, that was my first thought, too. In all my years in networking, I've ran exactly one instance of OpenBGPD and that's used simply for real-time updates of (anti-spam) blacklists and whitelists [0,1]. [0]: http://bgp-spamd.net/ http://bgp-spamd.net/ [1]: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon2013/phessler-bgp-spamd-presentation.pdf http://www.openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon2013/phessler-bgp-sp...

zdw 12y ago
http://www.openbgpd.org/users.html http://www.openbgpd.org/users.html Also, most large service providers don't tend to talk about their internal implementations. Many in the networking field have been indoctrinated in a Cisco-only philosophy, and then get hired into that monoculture over and over to the point they don't know about anything else, other than if it's something viewed as a Cisco competitor.
- jlgaddis 12y ago
  Sorry, I never doubted that there are large organizations that run OpenBGPD -- it's just that I, myself, have never personally encountered one (meaningless, I know). I do know that it's used quite often as a route server/reflector at various IXPs (and I may be standing up an instance to do just that in the near future as well) as well as a looking glass. I've managed routers from most of the large manufacturers (Cisco, Juniper, Brocade, HP/H3C, ALU, Mikrotik) and I took a good hard look at OpenBGPD a while back for a customer project so I am aware that it is quite feature-rich and capable and I certainly didn't intend to imply (if it came across that way) that it's not. Really, the thing that I took issue with was: > OpenBSD's OpenBGPD responsible for 30% of worldwide BGP communication It was followed up with: > Correction: 20% of ISPs using OpenBGPD That claim may very well be technically correct, but it strikes me as similar to, e.g., someone claiming that 90% of users on the Internet "use Linux" simply because their traffic may have {passed through|been directed to} a {router|server|firewall} that runs Linux.

zdw 12y ago

http://www.openbgpd.org/users.html http://www.openbgpd.org/users.html Also, most large service providers don't tend to talk about their internal implementations. Many in the networking field have been indoctrinated in a Cisco-only philosophy, and then get hired into that monoculture over and over to the point they don't know about anything else, other than if it's something viewed as a Cisco competitor.

jlgaddis 12y ago
Sorry, I never doubted that there are large organizations that run OpenBGPD -- it's just that I, myself, have never personally encountered one (meaningless, I know). I do know that it's used quite often as a route server/reflector at various IXPs (and I may be standing up an instance to do just that in the near future as well) as well as a looking glass. I've managed routers from most of the large manufacturers (Cisco, Juniper, Brocade, HP/H3C, ALU, Mikrotik) and I took a good hard look at OpenBGPD a while back for a customer project so I am aware that it is quite feature-rich and capable and I certainly didn't intend to imply (if it came across that way) that it's not. Really, the thing that I took issue with was: > OpenBSD's OpenBGPD responsible for 30% of worldwide BGP communication It was followed up with: > Correction: 20% of ISPs using OpenBGPD That claim may very well be technically correct, but it strikes me as similar to, e.g., someone claiming that 90% of users on the Internet "use Linux" simply because their traffic may have {passed through|been directed to} a {router|server|firewall} that runs Linux.