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Thankfully the district court judge was the only person in the courtroom besides the defendant capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality. Now if only he c

by byuu 12y ago

Thankfully the district court judge was the only person in the courtroom besides the defendant capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality. Now if only he could have levied criminal sanctions against the prosecutor in this case. It's terrifying how these juries think. It really is as simple as, "Have any of you played Grand Theft Auto? Does that make you all car thieves? Have you watched Saw? Does that make you serial killers? No? Then why are we here?" That people will vote to convict a man simply because they don't like what he thinks about, and that these cases can get this far in the first place, is absolutely terrifying. People really have become too stupid for a jury of one's peers to result in a fair trial. What do you think these people would do if this man had an impossible fetish, like petrification or gigantism? "Your honor, clearly the defendant had conspired to turn a woman in real life into a 50-foot tall statue. We must lock him up before he is able to do so."

thaumasiotes 12y ago
> "Your honor, clearly the defendant had conspired to turn a woman in real life into a 50-foot tall statue. We must lock him up before he is able to do so." Without disagreeing with you, I think most people "like this" would accept that argument. But there's no urgency there, because he'll never be able to do so. My mother advanced to me once the opinion that someone with a foot fetish should be legally barred from going into podiatry. I was shocked that people could think that way. :/
- croon 12y ago
  Indeed. Clearly you can't separate work and play and cure breast cancer if you're into boobs. /s
pekk 12y ago
> It's terrifying how these juries think. Two words: jury selection.
noonespecial 12y ago
Its ridiculously easy to get out of jury duty. Don't.
- patcheudor 12y ago
  The problem is that if you are the type who knows how to get out of jury duty it's likely you'll never be selected for a jury. I was told by several lawyer friends that my chances of being selected for a jury were in the neighborhood of 0% recently when my name came up in the pool to serve. Basically one side or the other will be spooked by my profession. They like teachers and people in retail or food service, that's about it. As a result, I saved everyone the time while still contributing to the community by identifying a terrifyingly high number of vulnerabilities with the online jury duty registration and management site. Note: don't do this without written permission. Playing with a system of the court without their authorization is likely the dumbest thing anyone could ever do. I got permission by making some initial observations which didn't require anything remotely resembling an intrusion attempt like pointing out the "F" they got in the Qualys SSL Labs tool. It was so bad that the local court had to scrap what they had and find another vendor to provide the service. To avoid serving I ended up using a process vulnerability in the law to get my call-up number near the end of the candidate pool. The law states that anyone called up for jury duty must complete the juror questionnaire. I refused to fill it out because the website hosting the form was SQLi vulnerable and it was possible to get all the completed questionnaires. As it turns out the law states that while everyone must complete the juror questionnaire, if they don't, there are no criminal penalties. They'll simply be required to fill it out on paper at the court if their number is called up. If they refuse at that time then they can be held in contempt, but only after going in front of a judge to work out the issue. Out of practicality, the local court doesn't want to deal with individuals who failed to complete the questionnaire so they assign those individuals call-up numbers at the end of the queue. My name was fifth from the end and I was never called to serve. Your state and local laws may vary.

by byuu 12y ago

thaumasiotes 12y ago

> "Your honor, clearly the defendant had conspired to turn a woman in real life into a 50-foot tall statue. We must lock him up before he is able to do so." Without disagreeing with you, I think most people "like this" would accept that argument. But there's no urgency there, because he'll never be able to do so. My mother advanced to me once the opinion that someone with a foot fetish should be legally barred from going into podiatry. I was shocked that people could think that way. :/

croon 12y ago
Indeed. Clearly you can't separate work and play and cure breast cancer if you're into boobs. /s

pekk 12y ago

> It's terrifying how these juries think. Two words: jury selection.

noonespecial 12y ago

Its ridiculously easy to get out of jury duty. Don't.

patcheudor 12y ago
The problem is that if you are the type who knows how to get out of jury duty it's likely you'll never be selected for a jury. I was told by several lawyer friends that my chances of being selected for a jury were in the neighborhood of 0% recently when my name came up in the pool to serve. Basically one side or the other will be spooked by my profession. They like teachers and people in retail or food service, that's about it. As a result, I saved everyone the time while still contributing to the community by identifying a terrifyingly high number of vulnerabilities with the online jury duty registration and management site. Note: don't do this without written permission. Playing with a system of the court without their authorization is likely the dumbest thing anyone could ever do. I got permission by making some initial observations which didn't require anything remotely resembling an intrusion attempt like pointing out the "F" they got in the Qualys SSL Labs tool. It was so bad that the local court had to scrap what they had and find another vendor to provide the service. To avoid serving I ended up using a process vulnerability in the law to get my call-up number near the end of the candidate pool. The law states that anyone called up for jury duty must complete the juror questionnaire. I refused to fill it out because the website hosting the form was SQLi vulnerable and it was possible to get all the completed questionnaires. As it turns out the law states that while everyone must complete the juror questionnaire, if they don't, there are no criminal penalties. They'll simply be required to fill it out on paper at the court if their number is called up. If they refuse at that time then they can be held in contempt, but only after going in front of a judge to work out the issue. Out of practicality, the local court doesn't want to deal with individuals who failed to complete the questionnaire so they assign those individuals call-up numbers at the end of the queue. My name was fifth from the end and I was never called to serve. Your state and local laws may vary.