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> I've been saying this for a long time. I'm sure you have, as have many others. What is less clear is how founded this perception is. > About 10 years ago, I
by cbsmith 12y ago
> I've been saying this for a long time.
I'm sure you have, as have many others. What is less clear is how founded this perception is.
> About 10 years ago, I had a programming blog that talked about topics such as Mysql VS Postgres and other topics I was interested in discussing. I got death threats, harassed, and emails telling me some of the worst things in the world (including the rape of me and my family members). I never really took it seriously, but it still happened on a constant basis.
There's no question that trolling happens to everyone, and trolls can often strike without the foggiest clue about someone's gender. It's not like the Y chromosome gets you a free pass.
However, did you, for comparison, try setting up a similar blog, masquerading as a woman, in order to compare the experience? While this study didn't find it, I believe the evidence from other studies has pretty regularly found that at the very least women get more vicious attacks and are more likely to be stalked. Sentiment analysis on very large datasets has been pretty conclusive in this regard.
It could be there was something critically different about this study that was, until now, ignored, but I don't see much reason for it to be an outlier beyond that it is so narrowly targeted (small sample population, UK only, etc.), or reason to think your perspective is more well informed than anyone else's.
- UnoriginalGuy 12y ago> the evidence from other studies has pretty regularly found that at the very least women get more vicious attacks and are more likely to be stalked. Sentiment analysis on very large datasets has been pretty conclusive in this regard. That's interesting, can you source it please.
- paulhauggis 12y ago"However, did you, for comparison, try setting up a similar blog, masquerading as a woman, in order to compare the experience? While this study didn't find it, I believe the evidence from other studies has pretty regularly found that at the very least women get more vicious attacks and are more likely to be stalked. Sentiment analysis on very large datasets has been pretty conclusive in this regard." So if a women gets 10 threatening messages and I get 8, does it really matter? Who cares who gets more threats..threats are threats and they need to stop. "It could be there was something critically different about this study that was, until now, ignored, but I don't see much reason for it to be an outlier beyond that it is so narrowly targeted (small sample population, UK only, etc.), or reason to think your perspective is more well informed than anyone else's." The same thing happens on other Internet forums and on social media. If you have any kind of opinion that someone doesn't like, you will get threats. Even more so on Twitter where it's really easy to fire off a shitty @ reply. If I was a woman, I don't think you would be trying to explain away my personal experiences. This is what I'm talking about.
- cbsmith 12y ago> So if a women gets 10 threatening messages and I get 8, does it really matter? I think you are minimizing the differences, and of course, there can be differences in credibility of threats as well. > Who cares who gets more threats..threats are threats and they need to stop. Absolutely. > If I was a woman, I don't think you would be trying to explain away my personal experiences. This is what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to explain your personal experiences away. However, I think you are mistaken about what the experience is for women. Mansplaining wasn't made up for no reason.