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Things like HHVM are frequently not suited for shared hosting environments So what can be done to make things like HHVM suitable for shared hosting? It's a hu

Things like HHVM are frequently not suited for shared hosting environments So what can be done to make things like HHVM suitable for shared hosting? It's a huge market, and a difficult problem to solve. I think the big question is: what is the cost/risk/reward benefit is for the hosting providers. You need to be cheaper than buying more hardware, safe enough to install without breaking everything, and provide a significant improvement in e.g. the number of hosts per server.

ceejayoz 12y ago
> It's a huge market, and a difficult problem to solve. It's a market I expect will go away entirely. You can get VPSes for comparable pricing to shared hosting these days - DigitalOcean is $5, Heroku is free for the first dyno, etc.
- mootothemax 12y ago
  It's a market I expect will go away entirely. You can get VPSes for comparable pricing to shared hosting these days - DigitalOcean is $5, Heroku is free for the first dyno, etc. I'm not convinced the market will go away. There are plenty of people who: - Want hosting - Don't have the technical abilities and/or time to set up a VPS - Just want something that works - right now this very second - With an easy-to-use control panel - And want to pay $5 - $10/mo for the pleasure Cheap hosting for non-technical and/or busy people is huge and I just can't see it losing market share to VPSes.
  - marktangotango 12y ago
    I agree with this analysis.
  - detaro 12y ago
    PaaS like Heroku is more or less exactly what such people want, isn't it? See the "deploy to heroku" buttons you see on more and more project websites.
    - vidarh 12y ago
      I suspect Heroku is far too technical for most of the customer base of most of the shared PHP hosters.
      - detaro 12y ago
        Looking on their main homepage again with that in mind: I have to agree, such potential customers probably wouldn't realize that this is what they want. So yes, there is potential for someone to make a Heroku for that crowd.

ceejayoz 12y ago

> It's a huge market, and a difficult problem to solve. It's a market I expect will go away entirely. You can get VPSes for comparable pricing to shared hosting these days - DigitalOcean is $5, Heroku is free for the first dyno, etc.

mootothemax 12y ago
It's a market I expect will go away entirely. You can get VPSes for comparable pricing to shared hosting these days - DigitalOcean is $5, Heroku is free for the first dyno, etc. I'm not convinced the market will go away. There are plenty of people who: - Want hosting - Don't have the technical abilities and/or time to set up a VPS - Just want something that works - right now this very second - With an easy-to-use control panel - And want to pay $5 - $10/mo for the pleasure Cheap hosting for non-technical and/or busy people is huge and I just can't see it losing market share to VPSes.
- marktangotango 12y ago
  I agree with this analysis.
- detaro 12y ago
  PaaS like Heroku is more or less exactly what such people want, isn't it? See the "deploy to heroku" buttons you see on more and more project websites.
  - vidarh 12y ago
    I suspect Heroku is far too technical for most of the customer base of most of the shared PHP hosters.
    - detaro 12y ago
      Looking on their main homepage again with that in mind: I have to agree, such potential customers probably wouldn't realize that this is what they want. So yes, there is potential for someone to make a Heroku for that crowd.