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Docker, Meteor, ElasticSearch, NPM there is plenty of start-ups doing infrastructure stuff. Market don't need fast PHP compiler look how low is adoption of HHV

by schizek 12y ago

Docker, Meteor, ElasticSearch, NPM there is plenty of start-ups doing infrastructure stuff. Market don't need fast PHP compiler look how low is adoption of HHVM. PHP is legacy codebase used for simple CMS. If someone need performance it will use Java, Node.js etc

NormlOverrated 12y ago
HHVM is not a compiler that it used to be with Facebook, it compiles PHP and Hack into JIT bytecode now. PHP has opcache, which speeds it up quite nicely, and PHP7 has great performance improvements. >PHP is legacy codebase used for simple CMS Of course it is, honey...
davidw 12y ago
> Docker, Meteor, ElasticSearch, NPM there is plenty of start-ups doing infrastructure stuff. What you want to look at, though, are established companies with customers doing open source stuff, like Redhat. They do exist, but it's not easy.
- icebraining 12y ago
  Oracle, Google, Microsoft, all of them do open source stuff.
  - davidw 12y ago
    "Do open source stuff" is very different from "being open source companies". I actually do think that the 'sweet spot' is to use open source as infrastructure, and make money with something proprietary, but that's not something that makes purists happy.
    - icebraining 12y ago
      Well, you wrote "doing open source stuff", not me :) I agree that it doesn't make purists happy, but frankly, I don't find it particularly important. As long as proprietary software exists, whether companies are separated between open and closed or hybrid isn't particularly relevant, in my opinion.
      - davidw 12y ago
        Fair enough, it was a thrown-off comment. The dichotomy is this in any event: it's easy enough to work on free infrastructure stuff if you make your money elsewhere, but it's difficult to work on free infrastructure stuff as your business.
MrDosu 12y ago
>If someone need performance it will use Java Thanks! I needed a laugh.
- v3ss0n 12y ago
  Go is a lot better choice these days. And Node.js now is slower than pypy 2.5.1 in many benchs :) I think Nimrod is something we should be looking at.

by schizek 12y ago

NormlOverrated 12y ago

HHVM is not a compiler that it used to be with Facebook, it compiles PHP and Hack into JIT bytecode now. PHP has opcache, which speeds it up quite nicely, and PHP7 has great performance improvements. >PHP is legacy codebase used for simple CMS Of course it is, honey...

davidw 12y ago

> Docker, Meteor, ElasticSearch, NPM there is plenty of start-ups doing infrastructure stuff. What you want to look at, though, are established companies with customers doing open source stuff, like Redhat. They do exist, but it's not easy.

icebraining 12y ago
Oracle, Google, Microsoft, all of them do open source stuff.
- davidw 12y ago
  "Do open source stuff" is very different from "being open source companies". I actually do think that the 'sweet spot' is to use open source as infrastructure, and make money with something proprietary, but that's not something that makes purists happy.
  - icebraining 12y ago
    Well, you wrote "doing open source stuff", not me :) I agree that it doesn't make purists happy, but frankly, I don't find it particularly important. As long as proprietary software exists, whether companies are separated between open and closed or hybrid isn't particularly relevant, in my opinion.
    - davidw 12y ago
      Fair enough, it was a thrown-off comment. The dichotomy is this in any event: it's easy enough to work on free infrastructure stuff if you make your money elsewhere, but it's difficult to work on free infrastructure stuff as your business.

MrDosu 12y ago

>If someone need performance it will use Java Thanks! I needed a laugh.

v3ss0n 12y ago
Go is a lot better choice these days. And Node.js now is slower than pypy 2.5.1 in many benchs :) I think Nimrod is something we should be looking at.