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Were you an engineerer or a seller?
by _ZeD_ 12y ago
Were you an engineerer or a seller?
- throwaway12347 12y agoHe was a product manager [1]. Before that, he worked as a finance guy [2]. He was not an engineer. [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/person/patrick-breitenbach https://www.crunchbase.com/person/patrick-breitenbach [2] https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbreitenbach https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbreitenbach
- dang 12y agoDoxing is not allowed on Hacker News.
- mkal_tsr 12y agoThis information is very easily found from searching based off their username. Is HN actively preventing people from registering with usernames that are on other sites and services? If not, what are the limits and connections between one's username and one's username on other websites? Further, what is the limit between one's username and full name and/or projects that are indexed on every major search engine? Should we not title this post "Tesla CEO" else we dox that individual?
- dang 12y agoIt doesn't matter how easily the information is found. By "doxing" I meant posting someone's personal details as a way of attacking them. None of us would want that done to ourselves, and we owe the same consideration to others. Nor is it needed for substantive discussion, which is the purpose of HN threads.
- diminoten 12y agoAm I doxxing myself by using my last name as my username, or by putting my real name, current position at my company, and my email address in my profile? The problem with your golden rule there is that you make assumptions about what other people want.
- talmand 12y agoYou're also making the assumption that if you're fine with it then so must everyone else. If we're to do all this assuming, then let's assume on the side of people's privacy.
- diminoten 12y agoHow? I'm just saying it's not cut/dry. I'm not making any assumptions.
- talmand 12y agoYour statement reads, to me admittedly, that since you put your public info out there that no one should care if someone else outs their info to the public. In context of the discussion. But you can't dox yourself, in the usual meaning of the term.
- diminoten 12y agoThe point I'm trying to make is that 'ease of discovery' is indeed a relevant factor here, and furthermore in this specific case the user was citing his professional experience with a username that corresponds to his own. I'd be willing to bet he's perfectly alright with someone posting his professional credentials on this site. I know I would be (and have, in fact). So is it really doxxing at all, then? This isn't a topic I'm all that passionate about, I just wanted to point out the differing opinion.
- mikeash 12y agoHe said "as a way of attacking them." Are you attacking yourself by posting your personal information? No? Then the answer to your question should be obvious.
- dang 12y ago> Am I doxxing myself by using my last name as my username, or by putting my real name, current position at my company, and my email address in my profile? No. But it's clear that the term "doxxing" (which I've never used before and apparently can't even spell) is a giant distraction. How about we just stick to the point about no personal attacks.
- malka 12y agoDoxing public informations ? If I say that Obama is POTUS, am I doxing him ?
- Karunamon 12y agoWTF? Posting public information is now considered doxxing? You don't get much more public than a LinkedIn page.
- dang 12y agoI have committed a faux pas among the cognoscenti. Message received! The point, though, is that posting someone else's personal details in order to malign them is a breach of the spirit of this site. I don't see how that could be more obvious. Fortunately, users flagged that comment. Let's have no more of this.
- derefr 12y agoTo be clear about this, for future reference: is it doxxing to post the contact information for someone's public office, when speaking to people about their concerns is part of that person's job? (Indeed, even posting this information in anger, per se to encourage "attacking them"—but when the targeted person has encouraged such "attacks", created a separate channel for them, and thinks of receiving them as "just what they do" rather than something scary.) For example, I don't think I've ever heard it called doxxing when someone puts up the address+phone number of a congressman and encourages people to write in. Nor when someone posts the "personal corporate" email of the CEO of a company to explain how to "go over the heads" of the CSRs of that company or to tell them about how you're boycotting the company. I don't think doxxing is about contact information, per se; it's more about the line between someone's public and private personas. If someone actually has the equivalent of a public-persona "complaints hotline", then I would think it would be just fine to post that, no?
- SamReidHughes 12y agoIt's not the definition of the term "doxxing" that makes a post be unclassy.
- pbreit 12y agoPM. So I was on the hook for getting the engineers to deliver the extraordinary requests.