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Opt-out, really? We shouldn't have to opt-out of something that shouldn't be happening in the first place. The government shouldn't be inserting a 3rd-party --

Opt-out, really? We shouldn't have to opt-out of something that shouldn't be happening in the first place. The government shouldn't be inserting a 3rd-party -- Google -- into my communications with them! As for this: > ... and good analytics typically help save money through better decisions and focusing effort on what's actually being used. Pffft. That's only true for startups whose sole goal is maximizing traffic/retention/whatever while absolutely minimizing the amount of creativity they expend on moving those "key performance metrics".

nemothekid 12y ago
>The government shouldn't be inserting a 3rd-party -- Google -- into my communications with them! I'd think you would be surprised to discover that the government has been using 3rd parties for years to manage various services. Did you know the government also uses Oracle databases to store your information?
- coroutines 12y ago
  Similarly, we should stop caring about domestic surveillance by the gov because the gov has been doing it for years and we've only learned of it now. /s Btw, using Google Analytics is a lot different than using an Oracle database - Oracle isn't privy to what you're storing.
  - nemothekid 12y ago
    >Oracle isn't privy to what you're storing. Do you work at Oracle? Are you 100% sure this is true? Have you audited all the hosted 3rd party solutions for the Government, and interviewed every employee to ensure that they aren't privy to your data? Have you ensured that all code written for the US govt has no cryptographic errors? The claim that the US Govt. shouldn't use google analytics because Google can read their data is hardly any different than arguing they shouldn't use managed Oracle solutions because some Oracle exec has access to their data. Where does it end? Should the US Govt. now spend and build their own analytics infrastructure? Should the US Govt. write their own databases? Print their own silicon? And what about everyone else? If a US company isn't trusted by the US Govt to keep data secure, what about insurance companies? Or Healthcare companies? Should these companies too, be also printing their own silicon? How is this a solution? If the problem is privacy, the solution is to create processes that respect privacy. Sitting in the dark because electricity might burn your house down is not a solution. And God forbid that the Govt coerces Google to share data on how people are using their own servers and that they are already making public.
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- suyash 12y ago
  The use Oracle Database because it's the provides the best solution.

nemothekid 12y ago

>The government shouldn't be inserting a 3rd-party -- Google -- into my communications with them! I'd think you would be surprised to discover that the government has been using 3rd parties for years to manage various services. Did you know the government also uses Oracle databases to store your information?

coroutines 12y ago
Similarly, we should stop caring about domestic surveillance by the gov because the gov has been doing it for years and we've only learned of it now. /s Btw, using Google Analytics is a lot different than using an Oracle database - Oracle isn't privy to what you're storing.
- nemothekid 12y ago
  >Oracle isn't privy to what you're storing. Do you work at Oracle? Are you 100% sure this is true? Have you audited all the hosted 3rd party solutions for the Government, and interviewed every employee to ensure that they aren't privy to your data? Have you ensured that all code written for the US govt has no cryptographic errors? The claim that the US Govt. shouldn't use google analytics because Google can read their data is hardly any different than arguing they shouldn't use managed Oracle solutions because some Oracle exec has access to their data. Where does it end? Should the US Govt. now spend and build their own analytics infrastructure? Should the US Govt. write their own databases? Print their own silicon? And what about everyone else? If a US company isn't trusted by the US Govt to keep data secure, what about insurance companies? Or Healthcare companies? Should these companies too, be also printing their own silicon? How is this a solution? If the problem is privacy, the solution is to create processes that respect privacy. Sitting in the dark because electricity might burn your house down is not a solution. And God forbid that the Govt coerces Google to share data on how people are using their own servers and that they are already making public.
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suyash 12y ago
The use Oracle Database because it's the provides the best solution.