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The point of their website is to make censored content available to Chinese users. China is attacking them to prevent Chinese people from reading the website.

by latj 12y ago

The point of their website is to make censored content available to Chinese users. China is attacking them to prevent Chinese people from reading the website. Your suggestion is to make the site unavailable to China. Do you see why it is not a solution? You are basically setting up a market for censorship-- the attack doesnt ever have to end-- depending on how much China is willing to pay to keep the website offline.

themgt 12y ago
OTOH if the great firewall already blocks this site, wouldn't that mean normal Chinese citizens would access it through a VPN via another country?
- obituary_latte 12y ago
  If normal citizens had access to a VPN in which to access this site from another country, it would be quite redundant to use this site then wouldn't it? Maybe I'm not understanding.
  - mod 12y ago
    If normal citizens have access to it without a VPN, then why doesn't China just block it with the firewall instead of ddosing? Maybe I'm not understanding.
    - obituary_latte 12y ago
      Yeah, no -- my fault. I wrongly assumed it was some type of proxy or way to get around the great firewall.
    - nilbot 12y ago
      From a source close to some organizations that tune/develop the chinese firewall (spoiler alert: public universities), they are adopting methods to trigger reversed censorships. And in my eyes, these methods, despite less technical challenging, are working as intended. Also, see this: http://furbo.org/2015/01/28/grass-mud-horse/ http://furbo.org/2015/01/28/grass-mud-horse/
- netheril96 12y ago
  The great firewall does already block this site, and I cannot view it now without turning on my VPN. Therefore this site is pretty useless to me currently, but someone has to fight the censorship. Maybe one day it will actually succeed?
methou 12y ago
Their website alone can't help those Chinese users get rid of GFW, but can provide information to those who already can. Attacking a single site is like more pro-active movement of the GFW itself, and a sign it can be so much worse.

by latj 12y ago

themgt 12y ago

OTOH if the great firewall already blocks this site, wouldn't that mean normal Chinese citizens would access it through a VPN via another country?

obituary_latte 12y ago
If normal citizens had access to a VPN in which to access this site from another country, it would be quite redundant to use this site then wouldn't it? Maybe I'm not understanding.
- mod 12y ago
  If normal citizens have access to it without a VPN, then why doesn't China just block it with the firewall instead of ddosing? Maybe I'm not understanding.
  - obituary_latte 12y ago
    Yeah, no -- my fault. I wrongly assumed it was some type of proxy or way to get around the great firewall.
  - nilbot 12y ago
    From a source close to some organizations that tune/develop the chinese firewall (spoiler alert: public universities), they are adopting methods to trigger reversed censorships. And in my eyes, these methods, despite less technical challenging, are working as intended. Also, see this: http://furbo.org/2015/01/28/grass-mud-horse/ http://furbo.org/2015/01/28/grass-mud-horse/
netheril96 12y ago
The great firewall does already block this site, and I cannot view it now without turning on my VPN. Therefore this site is pretty useless to me currently, but someone has to fight the censorship. Maybe one day it will actually succeed?

methou 12y ago

Their website alone can't help those Chinese users get rid of GFW, but can provide information to those who already can. Attacking a single site is like more pro-active movement of the GFW itself, and a sign it can be so much worse.