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Herbivore men in Japanese is not "soshoku danshi", it's "soshoku KEI danshi". Just sayin'.

aikinai 12y ago
I just looked it up and you're technically right; that's apparently the official dictionary term, but I've never heard anyone actually say that. Everyone calls them "soshoku danshi."
- jayfuerstenberg 12y ago
  Well the kanji uses "kei" too.
  - aikinai 12y ago
    A Google fight (excluding Chinese) turns up 549,000 results for 草食系男子 and 571,000 for 草食男子. Much closer than I expected, but the 'kei' is definitely not required.
    - adsofhoads 12y ago
      I think they meant that http://thelongandshort.org/issues/season-three/images/DeskHerbivorous.jpg http://thelongandshort.org/issues/season-three/images/DeskHe... has the 系 but then the translation the article gives below it is missing the "kei".
      - aikinai 12y ago
        Oh, I see! Yeah, that's true.
mlmonkey 12y ago
Does this apply to vegetarian Japanese men? Does this mean vegetarianism is considered a negative (at least among men)?
- kazinator 12y ago
  I don't think it's literal; it just uses meat eating as a metaphor for aggressivity and drive. Just like in English we have "carnal act" for sex, referring to the flesh. Or whatever. It's not even a word denoting vegetarians, but rather herbivores. A vegetarian is called 菜食主義者 (saishoku shugisha), not "soushoku" anything. "soushoku danshi" comes from "soushoku doubutsu", or "herbivore".
- tsotha 12y ago
  Kazinator is right. Don't think vegetarian. Think "herd animal sluggishly grazing in the fields".
- shaurz 12y ago
  "meat" = vagina
kazinator 12y ago
> it's "soshoku KEI danshi". Just sayin'. You are correct. The calligraphist got the inclusion of the "kei" right, just not the article text. I don't think that "soushoku danshi" is wrong, though. Also, sometimes just "soushoku doubutsu" is used (literally, "herbivore").
jpatokal 12y ago
"Soshoku danshi" is literally "grass-eating (herbivore) man". "Soshoku-kei danshi" is "grass-eating-group man". The latter is slightly more correct, but both are in common use.

I just looked it up and you're technically right; that's apparently the official dictionary term, but I've never heard anyone actually say that. Everyone calls them "soshoku danshi."

jayfuerstenberg 12y ago
Well the kanji uses "kei" too.
- aikinai 12y ago
  A Google fight (excluding Chinese) turns up 549,000 results for 草食系男子 and 571,000 for 草食男子. Much closer than I expected, but the 'kei' is definitely not required.
  - adsofhoads 12y ago
    I think they meant that http://thelongandshort.org/issues/season-three/images/DeskHerbivorous.jpg http://thelongandshort.org/issues/season-three/images/DeskHe... has the 系 but then the translation the article gives below it is missing the "kei".
    - aikinai 12y ago
      Oh, I see! Yeah, that's true.

mlmonkey 12y ago

Does this apply to vegetarian Japanese men? Does this mean vegetarianism is considered a negative (at least among men)?

kazinator 12y ago
I don't think it's literal; it just uses meat eating as a metaphor for aggressivity and drive. Just like in English we have "carnal act" for sex, referring to the flesh. Or whatever. It's not even a word denoting vegetarians, but rather herbivores. A vegetarian is called 菜食主義者 (saishoku shugisha), not "soushoku" anything. "soushoku danshi" comes from "soushoku doubutsu", or "herbivore".
tsotha 12y ago
Kazinator is right. Don't think vegetarian. Think "herd animal sluggishly grazing in the fields".
shaurz 12y ago
"meat" = vagina

kazinator 12y ago

> it's "soshoku KEI danshi". Just sayin'. You are correct. The calligraphist got the inclusion of the "kei" right, just not the article text. I don't think that "soushoku danshi" is wrong, though. Also, sometimes just "soushoku doubutsu" is used (literally, "herbivore").

jpatokal 12y ago

"Soshoku danshi" is literally "grass-eating (herbivore) man". "Soshoku-kei danshi" is "grass-eating-group man". The latter is slightly more correct, but both are in common use.