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Not sure that turning the light off is the first thing you want to do when you're bullied. And pretty certain that there's zero PR value in those stories.

by pi-err 12y ago

ikeboy 12y ago
Company under attack turns to this service to recover!
johnpowell 12y ago
Turning off the light is a great first step when wasted money is flying out of your wallet.
chralieboy 12y ago
They wouldn't just be giving in, it would take less than a day to get up and running on CloudFlare. That is probably worth avoiding $30k bill, especially for a non-profit. As for PR, there absolutely is good will towards organizations that take on censorship. This is the #1 story on HN, so a company stepping in and saying "we got this covered, free of charge" not only shows they are good people, but also gives would be customers an idea of the quick implementation cycle for their CDN + the load it can handle. Real world use case + helping to stop censorship = great PR
- loganu 12y ago
  This is exactly what I was thinking. I read the blog post, then came to the comments. I completely expected something along the lines of ... "Hey, I'm the VP @ SomethingTech, we like what you're doing and will help you mitigate the attacks for free if you get in touch with us." ... to be the top comment here.
- pi-err 12y ago
  My reaction was based on the interview where they say that the 30k$ charge was harming, not killing them. You're more knowledgeable than me on CloudFlare and it may very well be a strong option. Now in a way their $ penalty with this attack is not unlike growth. To me it sounds like they invested in their branding and will have a name as a company that can sustain damage and keep its ground - important because their goal is to be credible in bringing content in/out China. What if they had given in? They'd be yet another victim of an attack sort of linked with China. I do see a business sense behind what I assumed was their moral stance and I definitely stand by it.
- pi-err 12y ago
  My reaction was based on the interview where they say that the 30k$ charge was harming, not killing them. You're more knowledgeable than me on CloudFlare and it may very well be a strong option. Now in a way their $ penalty with this attack is not unlike growth. To me it sounds like they invested in their branding and will have a name as a company that can sustain damage and keep its ground - important because their goal is to be credible in bringing content in/out China. What if they had given in? They'd be yet another victim of an attack sort of linked with China. I do see a business sense behind what I assumed was their moral stance and I definitely stand by it.
moe 12y ago
Not sure that turning the light off is the first thing you want to do when you're bullied. Unless your attitude is worth $20 USD per minute to you then yes, that's very much what you want to do. And pretty certain that there's zero PR value in those stories. Well, Greatfire seems to be betting a 6 figure stake on the opposite here...
fixxer 12y ago
Nonsense. Stop hemorrhaging $ first.

Not sure that turning the light off is the first thing you want to do when you're bullied. And pretty certain that there's zero PR value in those stories.

by pi-err 12y ago

Not sure that turning the light off is the first thing you want to do when you're bullied. And pretty certain that there's zero PR value in those stories.

ikeboy 12y ago

Company under attack turns to this service to recover!

johnpowell 12y ago

Turning off the light is a great first step when wasted money is flying out of your wallet.

chralieboy 12y ago

They wouldn't just be giving in, it would take less than a day to get up and running on CloudFlare. That is probably worth avoiding $30k bill, especially for a non-profit. As for PR, there absolutely is good will towards organizations that take on censorship. This is the #1 story on HN, so a company stepping in and saying "we got this covered, free of charge" not only shows they are good people, but also gives would be customers an idea of the quick implementation cycle for their CDN + the load it can handle. Real world use case + helping to stop censorship = great PR

loganu 12y ago
This is exactly what I was thinking. I read the blog post, then came to the comments. I completely expected something along the lines of ... "Hey, I'm the VP @ SomethingTech, we like what you're doing and will help you mitigate the attacks for free if you get in touch with us." ... to be the top comment here.
pi-err 12y ago
My reaction was based on the interview where they say that the 30k$ charge was harming, not killing them. You're more knowledgeable than me on CloudFlare and it may very well be a strong option. Now in a way their $ penalty with this attack is not unlike growth. To me it sounds like they invested in their branding and will have a name as a company that can sustain damage and keep its ground - important because their goal is to be credible in bringing content in/out China. What if they had given in? They'd be yet another victim of an attack sort of linked with China. I do see a business sense behind what I assumed was their moral stance and I definitely stand by it.
pi-err 12y ago
My reaction was based on the interview where they say that the 30k$ charge was harming, not killing them. You're more knowledgeable than me on CloudFlare and it may very well be a strong option. Now in a way their $ penalty with this attack is not unlike growth. To me it sounds like they invested in their branding and will have a name as a company that can sustain damage and keep its ground - important because their goal is to be credible in bringing content in/out China. What if they had given in? They'd be yet another victim of an attack sort of linked with China. I do see a business sense behind what I assumed was their moral stance and I definitely stand by it.

moe 12y ago

Not sure that turning the light off is the first thing you want to do when you're bullied. Unless your attitude is worth $20 USD per minute to you then yes, that's very much what you want to do. And pretty certain that there's zero PR value in those stories. Well, Greatfire seems to be betting a 6 figure stake on the opposite here...

fixxer 12y ago

Nonsense. Stop hemorrhaging $ first.