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Suggestion: go to Amsterdam Schiphol. Take a Tesla Model S to the city. Then make up your mind about the "Apple of cars". The consensus in NL is that you're be

by naskwo 12y ago

Suggestion: go to Amsterdam Schiphol. Take a Tesla Model S to the city. Then make up your mind about the "Apple of cars". The consensus in NL is that you're better off with a Porsche Panamera than a Tesla, most likely with a less painful (although still painful) amortisation. Certainly, if you're taller than 180cm, drive before you buy into the hype.

retroencabulato 12y ago
Can you speak for an entire country?
mfringel 12y ago
It appears that you're implying an obvious conclusion based on a very specific experience, but I don't follow the implication. Can you elaborate?
ogejkahg 12y ago
A few points: 1) The Model S sells almost exactly the same number of units as the Panamera in Holland. I have absolutely no clue why you're claiming consensus when the market says it's a toss-up. 2) I'm tall. I'm a Tesla owner. My partner is also tall. He's also a Tesla owner. It's one of the best cars for tall folks on the market. I have no clue what you're on about. You appear to be talking out of your ass for no obvious reason, except that you dislike Tesla. Get a life.
ctb_mg 12y ago
A Porsche Panamera vs Tesla comparison is a poor one at best, knowing both the public perception of these brands and the products they have produced.
rconti 12y ago
1. What? Why the airport? Why drive that particular route? What is it about being in Amsterdam proper that makes the car worse than it was at the airport or on the motorway? What does this have to do with Apple? What's the comparison being made? 2. Ok? Why? 3. I am, in fact, 182cm, and was just in a Model S yesterday. I had tons of headroom. I've driven them with a helmet on and had no issue. Though I will note, on the ride home yesterday, I sat in the back seat. When I rested my head on the headrest (which I almost never do in a car), I noticed my head brushed the sloping roofline, which is a common problem in sloped roof designs like the CLS and Panamera and A7. In fact, because I have a long torso, I find that my head often scrapes the roof in the driver's seat of (taller) friend's cars, until I adjust the seat downwards.
vvanders 12y ago
6'2" Telsa owner here. No idea what you're talking about on not fitting. If it's a real concern get the panoramic roof which gains you another 3-4" of headroom.
- brc 12y ago
  I think the OP is talking about sitting in the back seat, not the front. I'd say OP got into a Tesla taxi/exec car and didn't like the room. But not sure why comparing to the Panamera is a good example, because it has a low and sloping roofline, and is only a 4 seater. Weird choice.
mikeash 12y ago
Why so complicated with going to Amsterdam and all that? Just go to your nearest Tesla location and take a test drive. Just be careful, because odds are good that you will want to buy one after doing so, and they are not cheap. I'm 190cm tall and I own a Model S and it's extremely comfortable for me, both as driver and passenger.

by naskwo 12y ago

retroencabulato 12y ago

Can you speak for an entire country?

mfringel 12y ago

It appears that you're implying an obvious conclusion based on a very specific experience, but I don't follow the implication. Can you elaborate?

ogejkahg 12y ago

A few points: 1) The Model S sells almost exactly the same number of units as the Panamera in Holland. I have absolutely no clue why you're claiming consensus when the market says it's a toss-up. 2) I'm tall. I'm a Tesla owner. My partner is also tall. He's also a Tesla owner. It's one of the best cars for tall folks on the market. I have no clue what you're on about. You appear to be talking out of your ass for no obvious reason, except that you dislike Tesla. Get a life.

ctb_mg 12y ago

A Porsche Panamera vs Tesla comparison is a poor one at best, knowing both the public perception of these brands and the products they have produced.

rconti 12y ago

1. What? Why the airport? Why drive that particular route? What is it about being in Amsterdam proper that makes the car worse than it was at the airport or on the motorway? What does this have to do with Apple? What's the comparison being made? 2. Ok? Why? 3. I am, in fact, 182cm, and was just in a Model S yesterday. I had tons of headroom. I've driven them with a helmet on and had no issue. Though I will note, on the ride home yesterday, I sat in the back seat. When I rested my head on the headrest (which I almost never do in a car), I noticed my head brushed the sloping roofline, which is a common problem in sloped roof designs like the CLS and Panamera and A7. In fact, because I have a long torso, I find that my head often scrapes the roof in the driver's seat of (taller) friend's cars, until I adjust the seat downwards.

vvanders 12y ago

6'2" Telsa owner here. No idea what you're talking about on not fitting. If it's a real concern get the panoramic roof which gains you another 3-4" of headroom.

brc 12y ago
I think the OP is talking about sitting in the back seat, not the front. I'd say OP got into a Tesla taxi/exec car and didn't like the room. But not sure why comparing to the Panamera is a good example, because it has a low and sloping roofline, and is only a 4 seater. Weird choice.

mikeash 12y ago

Why so complicated with going to Amsterdam and all that? Just go to your nearest Tesla location and take a test drive. Just be careful, because odds are good that you will want to buy one after doing so, and they are not cheap. I'm 190cm tall and I own a Model S and it's extremely comfortable for me, both as driver and passenger.