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If I well understood, it is recommended now to support the team to buy a clone rather that an original Arduino?

pmontra 12y ago
If you want to support the team you should buy from http://store.arduino.cc/ http://store.arduino.cc/ or from any other site. You should not buy from http://www.smartprj.com/ http://www.smartprj.com/ which is the Arduino Srl site.
- velodrome 12y ago
  Except that almost all the boards are sold out. Is there any other alternative?
  - 542458 12y ago
    Sparkfun's Arduino-like boards pay back a percentage to the inventors.
- upofadown 12y ago
  Here is a huge list of presumably legit distributors: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Buy http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Buy For example: DigiKey has thousands of the Arduino Uno in stock.
  - jack12 12y ago
    Except that there are reports (http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=307397.0 http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=307397.0) that the boards from official distributors are shipping with Arduino Srl's USB Vendor ID, indicating that purchasing any "official" Arduino is likely funding the attack on Arduino LLC. Hence the GP's observation that buying a 'no-name' clone seems to currently be the least-harmful option available.
kefka 12y ago
Absolutely. Arduino (both of them) have dropped the ball. Atmels are great for small low-everything projects. But once you move up to dealing with more complex data, they just don't have the horsepower... And when they do, you end up with the Arduino Yun, which is a binary blob of closed sourceness. Might as well go with a RasPi/uno combo for best of both worlds. Since the Chinese have been innovating here a lot, here's some links to get you started. And yes, I like AliExpress and Ali Baba. Pro mini $1.68 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pro-Mini-Module-Atmega328-5V-16M-For-Arduino-Compatible-With-Nano/2021666535.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pro-Mini-Module-Atmega328-5V-... Nano $2.52 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-Nano-3-0-controller-compatible-with-nano-CH340-USB-driver-NO-CABLE-NANO-V3-0/2035011839.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-Nano-3-0-controller-comp... Uno $3.15 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-prices-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-for-Arduino-Compatible-Free-Shipping-Dropshipping/32213964945.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-prices-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-f... Mega $9.85 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-Mega-2560-R3-Mega2560-REV3-ATmega2560-16AU-Board-USB-Cable-compatible-for-arduino-good-quality/1304207708.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-Mega-2560-R3-Meg...
- minthd 12y ago
  There's the arduino zero(cortex-m0) or arduino due(cortex-m3) which are powerful,and mostly compatible with the arduino - and probably have a decent community around them. So i'm not sure they've"dropped the ball".
  - rasz_pl 12y ago
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-DHUS-/321569700934 http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-Syst... http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-DHUS-/321569700934 http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-Syst...
- cssmoo 12y ago
  Wow £2.15 for a Uno! Paid 4x that on eBay. I currently have one switching a fan on and off periodically to exercise some seedlings (tomatoes, chillis) so not a massive CPU demand here :)
cssmoo 12y ago
Well that absolves me of a ton of guilt! I've bought a few cheap clones off ebay over the last couple of years.
- HeyLaughingBoy 12y ago
  Shouldn't feel guilty. It's OSHW, anyone can build their own and resell.
PeanutNore 12y ago
Once you already have an Arduino (one with a DIP socketed AVR chip like an Uno), a great option is to just buy ATMEga 328 or similar ICs with the Arduino bootloader burned on them and build standalone circuits around those, which requires only a 28 pin socket, a voltage regulator, a 16mhz crystal(or whatever clock rate you want to use), and a couple caps. Your Arduino board basically then serves as a programmer for the AVR.

If you want to support the team you should buy from http://store.arduino.cc/ http://store.arduino.cc/ or from any other site. You should not buy from http://www.smartprj.com/ http://www.smartprj.com/ which is the Arduino Srl site.

velodrome 12y ago
Except that almost all the boards are sold out. Is there any other alternative?
- 542458 12y ago
  Sparkfun's Arduino-like boards pay back a percentage to the inventors.
upofadown 12y ago
Here is a huge list of presumably legit distributors: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Buy http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Buy For example: DigiKey has thousands of the Arduino Uno in stock.
- jack12 12y ago
  Except that there are reports (http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=307397.0 http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=307397.0) that the boards from official distributors are shipping with Arduino Srl's USB Vendor ID, indicating that purchasing any "official" Arduino is likely funding the attack on Arduino LLC. Hence the GP's observation that buying a 'no-name' clone seems to currently be the least-harmful option available.

kefka 12y ago

Absolutely. Arduino (both of them) have dropped the ball. Atmels are great for small low-everything projects. But once you move up to dealing with more complex data, they just don't have the horsepower... And when they do, you end up with the Arduino Yun, which is a binary blob of closed sourceness. Might as well go with a RasPi/uno combo for best of both worlds. Since the Chinese have been innovating here a lot, here's some links to get you started. And yes, I like AliExpress and Ali Baba. Pro mini $1.68 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pro-Mini-Module-Atmega328-5V-16M-For-Arduino-Compatible-With-Nano/2021666535.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pro-Mini-Module-Atmega328-5V-... Nano $2.52 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-Nano-3-0-controller-compatible-with-nano-CH340-USB-driver-NO-CABLE-NANO-V3-0/2035011839.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-Nano-3-0-controller-comp... Uno $3.15 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-prices-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-for-Arduino-Compatible-Free-Shipping-Dropshipping/32213964945.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-prices-UNO-R3-MEGA328P-f... Mega $9.85 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-Mega-2560-R3-Mega2560-REV3-ATmega2560-16AU-Board-USB-Cable-compatible-for-arduino-good-quality/1304207708.html http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-Mega-2560-R3-Meg...

minthd 12y ago
There's the arduino zero(cortex-m0) or arduino due(cortex-m3) which are powerful,and mostly compatible with the arduino - and probably have a decent community around them. So i'm not sure they've"dropped the ball".
- rasz_pl 12y ago
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-DHUS-/321569700934 http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-Syst... http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-DHUS-/321569700934 http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-Syst...
cssmoo 12y ago
Wow £2.15 for a Uno! Paid 4x that on eBay. I currently have one switching a fan on and off periodically to exercise some seedlings (tomatoes, chillis) so not a massive CPU demand here :)

cssmoo 12y ago

Well that absolves me of a ton of guilt! I've bought a few cheap clones off ebay over the last couple of years.

HeyLaughingBoy 12y ago
Shouldn't feel guilty. It's OSHW, anyone can build their own and resell.

PeanutNore 12y ago

Once you already have an Arduino (one with a DIP socketed AVR chip like an Uno), a great option is to just buy ATMEga 328 or similar ICs with the Arduino bootloader burned on them and build standalone circuits around those, which requires only a 28 pin socket, a voltage regulator, a 16mhz crystal(or whatever clock rate you want to use), and a couple caps. Your Arduino board basically then serves as a programmer for the AVR.