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So don't work for this company? Sometimes people live and breathe the work they do, and are looking for others who will as well. It's up to you to decide whethe

So don't work for this company? Sometimes people live and breathe the work they do, and are looking for others who will as well. It's up to you to decide whether you want to participate in what they're doing.

Iftheshoefits 12y ago
See, the trouble is there are people in this industry who would work at this place, and that contributes to lower wages and poorer working conditions. Sure, I won't work there but the fact that others will has an impact on me at least indirectly. I think that's sufficient reason to call out this kind of job/company for the bullshit it is.
- mkoryak 12y ago
  Isn't that kind of like saying that those guys who always stay past 6pm or come in before 8am are assholes?
  - padobson 12y ago
    Not if those guys are laying fat stacks of sweet cheddar.
  - iamcurious 12y ago
    Of course not. But if they aren't demanding something for their efforts, they are misguided.
  - jschwartzi 12y ago
    What if you stay past 6 because you don't roll out of bed before 8?
  - lmm 12y ago
    Damn right they are, if they're doing it without pay. Any union would put a stop to that. A shame America's "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" are unwilling to act in their own interest.
  - Iftheshoefits 12y ago
    "Asshole" isn't the right word, assuming you mean they are working overtime regularly without pay. I'd probably use other words like "gullible" and "useful idiot[1]." And, yes, I would put them in the same tent as the other useful idiots who'd happily (as opppsed to out of desperation) take a job advertised as per the link in the article. [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
bsg75 12y ago
A translation of their post is "Don't work for us if you want either adequate compensation for your time and effort, or reasonable work hours." People who fully invest themselves in their work should be compensated accordingly, and this company is at their own admission not doing so. They are not looking for dedication, they are looking for cannon fodder.
collyw 12y ago
This sort of behavior drives down every developer's wages.
Dewie 12y ago
I seriously want to meet the kind of person who looks at a job advert, maybe does an interview, and then decides "Yep, this is the kind of job that I would like to live and breath". I can understand if someone does a job for a good while and gets invested and passionate about it. But who are these people who just look at job adverts and say "Yep, I could definitely centre my whole life around this."?

Iftheshoefits 12y ago

See, the trouble is there are people in this industry who would work at this place, and that contributes to lower wages and poorer working conditions. Sure, I won't work there but the fact that others will has an impact on me at least indirectly. I think that's sufficient reason to call out this kind of job/company for the bullshit it is.

mkoryak 12y ago
Isn't that kind of like saying that those guys who always stay past 6pm or come in before 8am are assholes?
- padobson 12y ago
  Not if those guys are laying fat stacks of sweet cheddar.
- iamcurious 12y ago
  Of course not. But if they aren't demanding something for their efforts, they are misguided.
- jschwartzi 12y ago
  What if you stay past 6 because you don't roll out of bed before 8?
- lmm 12y ago
  Damn right they are, if they're doing it without pay. Any union would put a stop to that. A shame America's "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" are unwilling to act in their own interest.
- Iftheshoefits 12y ago
  "Asshole" isn't the right word, assuming you mean they are working overtime regularly without pay. I'd probably use other words like "gullible" and "useful idiot[1]." And, yes, I would put them in the same tent as the other useful idiots who'd happily (as opppsed to out of desperation) take a job advertised as per the link in the article. [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

bsg75 12y ago

A translation of their post is "Don't work for us if you want either adequate compensation for your time and effort, or reasonable work hours." People who fully invest themselves in their work should be compensated accordingly, and this company is at their own admission not doing so. They are not looking for dedication, they are looking for cannon fodder.

collyw 12y ago

This sort of behavior drives down every developer's wages.

Dewie 12y ago

I seriously want to meet the kind of person who looks at a job advert, maybe does an interview, and then decides "Yep, this is the kind of job that I would like to live and breath". I can understand if someone does a job for a good while and gets invested and passionate about it. But who are these people who just look at job adverts and say "Yep, I could definitely centre my whole life around this."?