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> I also suspect that the 'shun corruption' just means they havent been caught yet. No, they are actually quite decent people. Birgitta has been an advocate o

> I also suspect that the 'shun corruption' just means they havent been caught yet. No, they are actually quite decent people. Birgitta has been an advocate of term limits and intends to not run again (even if term limits are not imposed). She is an artist and has been a consistent defender of the average citizen. Jón Þór is in his first term and has decided to step down mid-term to allow his replacement time to acclimate to Parliament before the next election (which is in 2017, barring public uprising). Helgi Hrafn has indicated he intends not to run again. All of them are passionate about the outcome of the next election and intend to give support to the running candidates. Corruption of the sort you see in USA does not happen as much in Alþingi, it's more nepotism by the executive (parliamentary rule, which is problematic) than blatant bribery by funding campaigns. Grassroots for the Pirates is very active and these public servants, truly are serving the public, not the party.

creshal 12y ago
> No, they are actually quite decent people. For now. They wouldn't be the first people to be corrupted by power.
- Beltiras 12y ago
  I think you aren't reading what I wrote. Let me rephrase: When the party is peaking and could be on the cusp of being one of the majority parties, the elected officials are turning the reins over to other people. This is as antithetical to institutional corruption as is possible.
  - creshal 12y ago
    This isn't a new idea either. The German Green party did the same… during their first few years in office. Now they're as corrupt as the others.
  - learnstats2 12y ago
    I agree with you, but this only applies for a maximum of a single electoral term. Are the replacements equally immune to a power grab?
  - PeterisP 12y ago
    If the good people turn the reins over to other people, then it's a cycle that goes on happily until the reins have been passed over to people who'll do anything to stay in power - it's nice but not sustainable in the long term.
steinnes 12y ago
They are wonderful and honest people yes, but with more support and subsequently power the risk of corruption and/or ulterior motives grow. Thankfully the pirate party advocates extreme transparency which should make "casual corruption" more difficult.
gislifb 12y ago
> Corruption of the sort you see in USA does not happen as much in Alþingi, it's more nepotism by the executive (parliamentary rule, which is problematic) than blatant bribery by funding campaigns. Well, the funding that the parties in charge and their members of parliament got from the fisheries in the last elections can be considered a form of bribery. Especially when one of their first works in office was to make sure the fisheries make more money by paying less tax. (This issue is more complicated though).

creshal 12y ago

> No, they are actually quite decent people. For now. They wouldn't be the first people to be corrupted by power.

Beltiras 12y ago
I think you aren't reading what I wrote. Let me rephrase: When the party is peaking and could be on the cusp of being one of the majority parties, the elected officials are turning the reins over to other people. This is as antithetical to institutional corruption as is possible.
- creshal 12y ago
  This isn't a new idea either. The German Green party did the same… during their first few years in office. Now they're as corrupt as the others.
- learnstats2 12y ago
  I agree with you, but this only applies for a maximum of a single electoral term. Are the replacements equally immune to a power grab?
- PeterisP 12y ago
  If the good people turn the reins over to other people, then it's a cycle that goes on happily until the reins have been passed over to people who'll do anything to stay in power - it's nice but not sustainable in the long term.

steinnes 12y ago

They are wonderful and honest people yes, but with more support and subsequently power the risk of corruption and/or ulterior motives grow. Thankfully the pirate party advocates extreme transparency which should make "casual corruption" more difficult.

gislifb 12y ago

> Corruption of the sort you see in USA does not happen as much in Alþingi, it's more nepotism by the executive (parliamentary rule, which is problematic) than blatant bribery by funding campaigns. Well, the funding that the parties in charge and their members of parliament got from the fisheries in the last elections can be considered a form of bribery. Especially when one of their first works in office was to make sure the fisheries make more money by paying less tax. (This issue is more complicated though).