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No, most people I know don't have an actual lawyer they know already. "don't talk without your lawyer" means to get a lawyer representing you before you talk. I

by hueving 12y ago

No, most people I know don't have an actual lawyer they know already. "don't talk without your lawyer" means to get a lawyer representing you before you talk. It isn't meant to imply that you must have one to begin with.

skrebbel 12y ago
So how do you google for an appropriate lawyer when in custody and you only get one phone call? Not cynical, I really wonder. I guess the exact same problem exists where I live (the Netherlands).
- gambiting 12y ago
  I believe every single EU country will have public lawyers that you can talk to while arrested. It might take a few hours to get one summoned,but you definitely can. Obviously this is not an option when you are being interviewed by the police on the street.
- gadders 12y ago
  I would imagine they have duty lawyers on call or Public Defenders or something.
- roel_v 12y ago
  In the Netherlands, you don't 'get one phone call'. You have (since very recently, and only in some cases) the right to talk to 'a' lawyer before you are questioned. Hence, either the police provides you with one if you don't know who you'd like, or the questioning has to wait until your lawyer is present (bar some limits like withing x time, I don't know the procedural rules by heart - how things are actually applied also varies by area). So if it takes 3 phone calls, so be it.
  - dagw 12y ago
    The whole "you get exactly one phone call" is largely a movie trope used for dramatic effect. The exact number of phone calls you get is very much dependent on where you got arrested, what you got arrested for and even the mood of the person in charge. But basically you'll generally be allowed to (eventually) make the number of calls necessary to either get a hold of your lawyer or get a hold of someone who can find and call a lawyer for you.
- realityking 12y ago
  In Germany, in many cities and towns, local attorney associations provide emergency phone numbers. The provide free legal advice on the phone and provide you with a free attorney for the duration emergency (e.g. while a search warrant is executed). Intrestingly, I just noticed that I have the number stored in my cell phone (since before I had a smart phone). That may not be the smartest way to do it.
  - pluma 12y ago
    Another German here. I have legal insurance. Comes with a card for your wallet listing a 24 hrs hotline that puts you in touch with a lawyer (for free) within seconds. I've actually made use of it several times to get a professional opinion on difficult situations.
- dmd 12y ago
  http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnePhoneCall http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnePhoneCall http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2274/you-have-the-right-to-one-phone-call-when-arrested-a-hollywood-myth http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2274/you-have-th...
- mayneack 12y ago
  https://www.popehat.com/2011/05/27/how-to-cold-call-a-lawyer-a-potential-clients-guide/ https://www.popehat.com/2011/05/27/how-to-cold-call-a-lawyer...
  - tempestn 12y ago
    "So — you have a name. Either it's the name of someone who has been recommended to you, and they are expecting your call, or it's someone who was on the first page of Google results for +oh +shit +need +lawyer +Pismo Beach +dwarf +public +indecency +hedge-clippers or something. What do you need to do?" Ah, PopeHat.
- mikeash 12y ago
  There's no "gotcha" where you have to find a lawyer under certain constraints or they get to question you without one. You have the right to legal counsel. That means they have to let you do what you need to do to find a lawyer, or provide you with one. They can't just say, "sorry, time's up, now we go question you anyway." They could in theory detain you for a while longer without a lawyer, but they couldn't continue to question you.

by hueving 12y ago

skrebbel 12y ago

So how do you google for an appropriate lawyer when in custody and you only get one phone call? Not cynical, I really wonder. I guess the exact same problem exists where I live (the Netherlands).

gambiting 12y ago
I believe every single EU country will have public lawyers that you can talk to while arrested. It might take a few hours to get one summoned,but you definitely can. Obviously this is not an option when you are being interviewed by the police on the street.
gadders 12y ago
I would imagine they have duty lawyers on call or Public Defenders or something.
roel_v 12y ago
In the Netherlands, you don't 'get one phone call'. You have (since very recently, and only in some cases) the right to talk to 'a' lawyer before you are questioned. Hence, either the police provides you with one if you don't know who you'd like, or the questioning has to wait until your lawyer is present (bar some limits like withing x time, I don't know the procedural rules by heart - how things are actually applied also varies by area). So if it takes 3 phone calls, so be it.
- dagw 12y ago
  The whole "you get exactly one phone call" is largely a movie trope used for dramatic effect. The exact number of phone calls you get is very much dependent on where you got arrested, what you got arrested for and even the mood of the person in charge. But basically you'll generally be allowed to (eventually) make the number of calls necessary to either get a hold of your lawyer or get a hold of someone who can find and call a lawyer for you.
realityking 12y ago
In Germany, in many cities and towns, local attorney associations provide emergency phone numbers. The provide free legal advice on the phone and provide you with a free attorney for the duration emergency (e.g. while a search warrant is executed). Intrestingly, I just noticed that I have the number stored in my cell phone (since before I had a smart phone). That may not be the smartest way to do it.
- pluma 12y ago
  Another German here. I have legal insurance. Comes with a card for your wallet listing a 24 hrs hotline that puts you in touch with a lawyer (for free) within seconds. I've actually made use of it several times to get a professional opinion on difficult situations.
dmd 12y ago
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnePhoneCall http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnePhoneCall http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2274/you-have-the-right-to-one-phone-call-when-arrested-a-hollywood-myth http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2274/you-have-th...
mayneack 12y ago
https://www.popehat.com/2011/05/27/how-to-cold-call-a-lawyer-a-potential-clients-guide/ https://www.popehat.com/2011/05/27/how-to-cold-call-a-lawyer...
- tempestn 12y ago
  "So — you have a name. Either it's the name of someone who has been recommended to you, and they are expecting your call, or it's someone who was on the first page of Google results for +oh +shit +need +lawyer +Pismo Beach +dwarf +public +indecency +hedge-clippers or something. What do you need to do?" Ah, PopeHat.
mikeash 12y ago
There's no "gotcha" where you have to find a lawyer under certain constraints or they get to question you without one. You have the right to legal counsel. That means they have to let you do what you need to do to find a lawyer, or provide you with one. They can't just say, "sorry, time's up, now we go question you anyway." They could in theory detain you for a while longer without a lawyer, but they couldn't continue to question you.