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For academics, for one possibility, look into B-schools: At the research universities, the B-school research requirement seems to be to publish nearly anything
by graycat 12y ago
For academics, for one possibility, look into
B-schools: At the research
universities, the B-school research requirement
seems to be to publish nearly anything.
Some of the journals popular in B-school
publishing have not very high standards for
quality.
The B-schools are basically
forced by some standards efforts
to teach some courses that
are essentially applied math.
One might guess that the B-schools
want to be professional or clinical
but, instead, they tend to want to
see themselves as applied social
science, and social science has
physics envy and wants to be
mathematical. Their favorite math
is linear statistics. So typically
there's a lot of such statistics
in the research at B-schools. And
typically the B-school profs are not
very good at math or statistics.
B-schools also want to dabble in
computing -- if you can teach some
courses in computing, even as electives,
then you might get liked for that.
No doubt some B-schools would like
someone who could teach courses
in financial engineering, say,
with Brownian motion, stochastic
integration, Black-Scholes
and generalizations -- basically
the Brownian motion solution to the
Dirichlet problem. So, if you
like mathematical finance, then
maybe teach it in a B-school.
DC may still be a good area for applied
math: So, submit a Civil Service application
and also send copies to the usual
suspects -- NIST, various DoE labs,
various DoD labs, various groups
interested in economics or mathematical
finance, that is, maybe the Federal
Reserve (also try the regional
Fed banks), the Social Security
Administration, etc. If you want,
try NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, etc. -- no telling
what they might want to do with some
applied math. Also try the JHU/APL.
There have long been lots of
Beltway Bandit shops because
commonly Congress gives the
departments of the Federal Government
more money to spend than full time
head count to spend it on so that
a lot of the money and/or work goes through
companies. E.g., Edward Snowden
worked for Booz-Allen or some such.
For technical jobs around DC,
it used to be that the job ads in
The Washington Post were good
places to look.
There is a chance that Google, Facebook,
Yahoo and some others are interested
in some projects that might
be able to use some high end applied math.
A problem may be that the other workers there are
not very good at math and, really,
make a mess out of the work, the
opportunities, the positions, etc.,
and that can be bad for everyone.
It's not clear that everything
in mathematical finance is
a rat race. I doubt that James
Simons ran a rat race shop.
Houston has some important slots for
optimization, e.g., as in the work
of Princeton Chem Eng prof Floudas.
E.g., here's all the crude oil
inputs we have available and the costs,
and here's all the prices for
all the possible refinery products.
So, say what crude oil to buy and what
products to sell to maximize
earnings. That's an old problem,
but likely people are still working
on it.
The airlines have some very serious
problems in fleet and crew scheduling,
and first cut it's integer linear
programming. But with uncertainties,
if you want to handle them at all realistically,
the formulations and solutions can become
challenging in all respects.
A better solution can show
its value just on the computer
and get taken seriously. For
some airline spending $100
million a month just on jet fuel,
saving a few percent can pay for
some nice computing, work, etc.
Maybe look at what the operations
research people are doing these
days in scheduling for trucks,
airplanes, cargo ships, etc.
No doubt Amazon, Wal-Mart, etc.
have some good problems
that are generalization of
the old transportation
problem -- the one Kantorovich
got a Nobel prize for.
Now we regard that problem
as least cost flows on a network
and use the simplex algorithm
to solve it and where a basic
feasible solution corresponds to
a spanning tree of arcs on the network.
My view is that broadly now being
handy with probability and
probabilistic modeling of real
situations is valuable, not that
you can expect anyone else to know this
so that, really, all you can sell
are results, not the work.
E.g., with the Kolmogorov
definition of a random variable,
a function from a measurable space
to the reals measurable with respect
to the Borel subsets of the reals
and a sigma algebra on the measurable
space, go get a number, any number,
and then regard it as the value of
a random variable, that is,
intuitively, one number among
others that might have been
observed. Now you know the first
step in analyzing any given
data -- call each number the
value of a random variable.
Then look for some assumptions,
independence, orthogonality,
or other relationships among
the random variables.
Keep the weak law of large numbers
at your side -- that is, get
some independent, identically
distributed samples and take
an average. There's more!
Uh, the set of all real
valued random variables
X so that E[X^2] is finite
forms a Hilbert space. The
inner product is (X,Y)
= E[XY]. So, yup, that
completeness holds is a bit
amazing, but it does and the
proof is mostly just the Minkowski
inequality from the inner product.
Then in a Hilbert space we can
do projections, and they
are approximations, e.g., least
squares.
Currently the Internet
ad people and their
ad targeting should be an
opportunity to do some valuable
applied math.
For what to study beyond the usual
ugrad and Master's pure/applied
math, I'd say the math sciences,
the math of operations research
or systems analysis or electronic
engineering. So, linear algebra,
numerical linear algebra,
linear systems of various kinds,
optimization (linear, integer linear, non-linear,
network linear programming),
etc.
My view is that soon computing will
run aground due to running
out of any additional utility
from just their usual intuitive
and heuristic approaches to solving
practical problems and need
math. But don't hold you breath.
Maybe you can have a good, long
term career, say, long enough to
have kids and get them through college,
at some one organization. Maybe.
Maybe for some DoD lab. Maybe.
Otherwise I have to suspect that
in the end you will have to
be a businessman where you
think of the product/service,
develop it, deliver it to your
customers, and get the revenue.
Then you get to use whatever math
helps without trying to talk
some non-mathematical manager
into letting you try,
and then you just deliver the
results, not the math itself,
to your customers.
In the short term, I'd suggest
get a job for a salary,
keep one foot in pure/applied
math, keep the other foot in
computing, try to make a
career out of the job,
but really expect to have to do,
and, thus, to look
for a way to do, a startup
based on applied math and
computing. There you just
use the math as an advantage,
maybe the crucial core --
still the rest that is more
routine is also important.
For how "lucrative", essentially
that's up to you!
Broadly, can't really
expect someone else to
create a good job in applied
math for you. Instead, you
have to create the job you
want and then take that job,
do well with it, and build
a career. You can do this
starting a pizza shop;
with math and computing,
they should be advantages.
E.g., with some abstract
algebra applied to coding
theory, A. Viterbi built
Qualcomm.
If you know someone who knows someone,
then maybe could get into some
niche slot somewhere, maybe on the
staff of a committee of Congress.
- hgibbs 12y agoCheers, I really appreciate that you took the time to write this all out. I am glad that there seem to be so many options.
- graycat 12y agoHere's an example of applied math in industry: FedEx had candidate investor General Dynamics (GD), and GD had sent two of their guys, one aero engineer and one finance guy, to help FedEx. FedEx needed the GD investment. At one point, the Board wanted some revenue projections. I wasn't asked to get involved and didn't want to, but no one had any ideas of how to do the projections except just draw a free hand line on a graph based on hopes, dreams, intentions, guesses, etc. So, I thought: We know (1) the current revenue. We know (2) the revenue when the planned service to 90 US cities with 33 airplanes is full. So, the projections are roughly how interpolate between (1) and (2). For how the interpolation will go, we have (3) current customers and (4) the rest of the customers we will have when we have (2) and are full. Then say that the growth is from current customers (3) talking to the rest of the customers (4). That is, the rate of growth is directly proportional to the number of (happy) customers (3) talking to the rest of the customers we will have (4). So, let t denote time in days with t = 0 corresponding to the present. Let the revenue at time t be y(t). Let the revenue from (2), being full, be b dollars a day. Then at time t, the growth rate is y'(t), that is, d/dt y(t). So, we have that y'(t) = k y(t) ( b - y(t) ) How 'bout that! Maybe it's so simple it's almost just a joke, but the rest of the ideas floating around the office are much worse! So, sure, it's an initial value problem for a first order, linear ordinary differential equation but, really, is so simple can just use freshman calculus directly and find the closed form solution, right, some exponentials I omit here. So, on a Friday the Senior Vice President (SVP) for Planning and I got out some graph paper, picked a value for k, and drew the graph. The next day, Saturday, I was in my office, and at noon I got a phone call asking if I knew about the revenue projections. Well, the SVP was traveling, and, yes, I knew. So, I was asked if I could come over to the HQ offices and explain. So, I got in my Camaro hot rod and drove over. When I got there, people were unhappy. The two GD guys were standing in the hall with their bags packed. I was led to the graph, given a time, and asked to reproduce the value on the graph at that time. So, I had brought my HP scientific calculator, punched the buttons, and got the value on the graph. I did that a few more times, and people started to be happy again. It turned out that the Board meeting had been that Saturday morning; the graph had been presented; and the two GD guys had asked how it had been calculated. Well, all the FedEx people there tried to figure out how the graph had been calculated and went on for a few hours without success, and then GD guys lost patience, got plane reservations back to Texas, went to their rented rooms and packed their bags, and as a last chance returned to the HQ offices to see if FedEx had an explanation for the graph. FedEx was about to die. That's when I arrived and explained the graph. The FedEx guys stayed, and FedEx was saved. I never got thanked! Really my impression was that the rest of the top of FedEx had concluded that I'd been dangerous, maybe had 'hooked' the company. And I'd never been invited to the Board meeting. So, I began to conclude that my contribution was so resented that the top of FedEx would rather see all of FedEx go under than let me help. The promised FedEx stock was already 18 months late. I was in Memphis while my wife was in her Ph.D. program at Johns Hopkins near our home in Maryland. So, to heck with FedEx -- I went home and to Hopkins for my Ph.D. So, that's an example of applied math in US business! E.g., I was the only one around who still knew freshman calculus! And, heck, I'd never even taken freshman calculus, had studied it on my own and started with sophomore calculus! A broad lesson is, for anything very technical, have a tough time just making a contribution in the middle of a lot of operational and management people who forgot freshman calculus -- such people will feel out of control and resentful. So, instead, for technical contributions, need an appropriate organizational structure, maybe be in a research division and out of the main line operations or management, maybe be a respected external vendor, maybe be in a profession complete with legal liability and licensing, etc. And charge a LOT. Of course, broadly, the flip side of such technical incompetence, at the level of just freshman calculus, should be an opportunity! There were several other cases where I did some good technical work on an important problem but resentment by others and competitive office politics kept me from getting credit or actually blocked my contribution. In the field of organizational behavior, such politics is called goal subordination, that is, someone finds it in their interest in the company to hurt the company, subordinate the good of the company to their own good. Broadly, being a really good technical contributor among a lot of less technical people is a great way to create enemies who will sabotage your career, not friends who will help it. So, net, usually have to make a technical contribution from outside the pecking order of the organization. That is, be a vendor. Still better, just sell a product or service the customers will like but where the customers need not be aware of anything technical in the work.