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There are parts of Brazil where people drink mate like tea. No straw, no gourd, no sharing, no herpes.

by glibgil 12y ago

pilaf 12y ago
That's true of Argentina too (and most likely anywhere where mate is drunk), it's called mate cocido: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_cocido https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_cocido
dguaraglia 12y ago
Funnily enough, I only got familiarized with herpes when I moved to Brazil. I only recall a couple people ever having herpes in Argentina, but in Brazil it was a pretty common occurrence. I imagine it might have to do with the 'browner' people of Argentina being more resilient and maybe just being asymptomatic.
- pedrosorio 12y ago
  "the 'browner' people of Argentina" Argentina has a much larger fraction of "white" people than Brazil, right?
  - dguaraglia 12y ago
    You'd think that, but not so much. There's a substantial Germanic/Polish descendant population in the South of Brazil. Very fair skinned. I'd love to have a breakdown by ancestry of both countries, but from my own anecdotal experience is is more common to see fair-skinned people in Brazil than in Argentina. (Just going quickly over it in Wikipedia it looks like about 90 million people in Brazil are 'white'. That's double the population of Argentina already.)
    - pedrosorio 12y ago
      Yes, I'm aware that people in the South of Brazil are generally fair skinned due to the factors you mentioned. I understood you were comparing Argentina as a whole to Brazil as a whole (and the latter has a much larger fraction of black/mixed/amerindian people, the other 90 million who are not white i.e. half of the population). But fair enough, since you mentioned moving from Argentina to Brazil, I should have assumed shortest path :) and guessed you were talking about Rio Grande do Sul or Santa Catarina (obvious after reading your other references to it on this post). P.S.: I need to update my "memorized demographics" - I remembered Brazil's population was 180 million but that's the number for 2002, today it's 200 million. An easy mistake to make coming from a country with a stagnant population growth...
      - solids 12y ago
        7-1...
    - ramblerman 12y ago
      " That's double the population of Argentina already". You're mixing relative and absolute numbers to make your point. Brazil has 4 times the population of Argentina. I mean it's like me arguing it's more common to see irish in the US than in Ireland. There are 33 million irish descendants in the US - That's like 6 times the population of Ireland...
      - dguaraglia 12y ago
        Right, but adding both 'white' and 'brown' numbers (their terminology, not mine) you still get ~170 million people, which is ~85% of the population being 'somewhat white'. That's roughly the same relative number as Argentina. The difference is the distribution on the 'white scale' if you will. Brazil has a higher influence of fairer-skinned Europeans (vast majority Portuguese, but with substantial German/Polish/Scandinavian) compared to Argentina (mostly Italian/Spanish, with tiny pockets of German, Swiss and British here and there.) tl; dr: the chances of meeting a 'fair skinned' (defined as "European descendant) person are roughly the same in Argentina and Brazil. The chances of that person being blonde and have very fair skin are higher in Brazil. (p.s. from my own anecdata: I consider myself to be smack in the middle of the darkness scale for Argentina, not too fair, not too dark. When I first moved to the South of Brazil I was surprised by how much I stood out in a group for being 'tan'.)
- trhway 12y ago
  >Funnily enough, I only got familiarized with herpes when I moved to Brazil. I only recall a couple people ever having herpes in Argentina, but in Brazil it was a pretty common occurrence. without any specific tradition of sharing coming to mind, cold sores were pretty common in Russia while i never heard about genital herpes when i lived there (while there were normal occurrence of other STDs).

There are parts of Brazil where people drink mate like tea. No straw, no gourd, no sharing, no herpes.

by glibgil 12y ago

There are parts of Brazil where people drink mate like tea. No straw, no gourd, no sharing, no herpes.

pilaf 12y ago

That's true of Argentina too (and most likely anywhere where mate is drunk), it's called mate cocido: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_cocido https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_cocido

dguaraglia 12y ago

Funnily enough, I only got familiarized with herpes when I moved to Brazil. I only recall a couple people ever having herpes in Argentina, but in Brazil it was a pretty common occurrence. I imagine it might have to do with the 'browner' people of Argentina being more resilient and maybe just being asymptomatic.

pedrosorio 12y ago
"the 'browner' people of Argentina" Argentina has a much larger fraction of "white" people than Brazil, right?
- dguaraglia 12y ago
  You'd think that, but not so much. There's a substantial Germanic/Polish descendant population in the South of Brazil. Very fair skinned. I'd love to have a breakdown by ancestry of both countries, but from my own anecdotal experience is is more common to see fair-skinned people in Brazil than in Argentina. (Just going quickly over it in Wikipedia it looks like about 90 million people in Brazil are 'white'. That's double the population of Argentina already.)
  - pedrosorio 12y ago
    Yes, I'm aware that people in the South of Brazil are generally fair skinned due to the factors you mentioned. I understood you were comparing Argentina as a whole to Brazil as a whole (and the latter has a much larger fraction of black/mixed/amerindian people, the other 90 million who are not white i.e. half of the population). But fair enough, since you mentioned moving from Argentina to Brazil, I should have assumed shortest path :) and guessed you were talking about Rio Grande do Sul or Santa Catarina (obvious after reading your other references to it on this post). P.S.: I need to update my "memorized demographics" - I remembered Brazil's population was 180 million but that's the number for 2002, today it's 200 million. An easy mistake to make coming from a country with a stagnant population growth...
    - solids 12y ago
      7-1...
  - ramblerman 12y ago
    " That's double the population of Argentina already". You're mixing relative and absolute numbers to make your point. Brazil has 4 times the population of Argentina. I mean it's like me arguing it's more common to see irish in the US than in Ireland. There are 33 million irish descendants in the US - That's like 6 times the population of Ireland...
    - dguaraglia 12y ago
      Right, but adding both 'white' and 'brown' numbers (their terminology, not mine) you still get ~170 million people, which is ~85% of the population being 'somewhat white'. That's roughly the same relative number as Argentina. The difference is the distribution on the 'white scale' if you will. Brazil has a higher influence of fairer-skinned Europeans (vast majority Portuguese, but with substantial German/Polish/Scandinavian) compared to Argentina (mostly Italian/Spanish, with tiny pockets of German, Swiss and British here and there.) tl; dr: the chances of meeting a 'fair skinned' (defined as "European descendant) person are roughly the same in Argentina and Brazil. The chances of that person being blonde and have very fair skin are higher in Brazil. (p.s. from my own anecdata: I consider myself to be smack in the middle of the darkness scale for Argentina, not too fair, not too dark. When I first moved to the South of Brazil I was surprised by how much I stood out in a group for being 'tan'.)
trhway 12y ago
>Funnily enough, I only got familiarized with herpes when I moved to Brazil. I only recall a couple people ever having herpes in Argentina, but in Brazil it was a pretty common occurrence. without any specific tradition of sharing coming to mind, cold sores were pretty common in Russia while i never heard about genital herpes when i lived there (while there were normal occurrence of other STDs).