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Skylines is a great game, with great mod support... ...that retails for $30 (can get it for less on sites like greenmangaming.com). That part blows my mind.

johnward 12y ago
I made a rule to never pre-order after SimCity 5. I broke that rule when I saw the price of skylines, the small dev team that was producing it, and the support they wanted to put in for modders.
tricolon 12y ago
Do you think $30 is cheap or expensive? I, for one, think it's exactly the right price.
- mikeash 12y ago
  I'd say it's a bit cheap. I'd expect something like this to start out at $50-60 at initial release. EA is still selling Sim City 4 for $20, despite it being old enough to be in middle school by now.
- Goronmon 12y ago
  I'd say it's a bit on the cheap side when you are talking full retail pricing. It executes well on its premise, has good polish and has no major issues that I've run into at release. That's better than most games asking for $50+ these days. And yet, it's priced at a discount.
- yourtoplessmom 12y ago
  He thinks it is cheap. He would be willing to pay around $80.
eclipxe 12y ago
Yeah over 10k mods in the first week.. Crazy!
- tetraodonpuffer 12y ago
  I think skylines mods are non-sandboxed (meaning you can do what you want code-wise, note the mod that adds reddit posts to your game internal chirper) that would concern me from a malware perspective
  - eclipxe 12y ago
    http://www.reddit.com/r/CSModAudits http://www.reddit.com/r/CSModAudits
    - tetraodonpuffer 12y ago
      it is nice to see that they post hash values of what was audited, but how do I prevent the steam client from automatically updating the mods I have to a newer non-audited version? how can you compute a checksum of the module before downloading it? it seems the steam client only allows you to 'subscribe' to a mod, not to download/check/install it
  - robwilliams 12y ago
    They are non-sandboxed but most are open source. Additionally, there are so many users testing these mods that I doubt any serious malware could be put on Steam without being caught by the community.
    - tetraodonpuffer 12y ago
      assume I have a "good" mod, lots of people download it, which as far as I understand is a "subscription" in steam workshop terms, somebody breaks into my account and uploads a malicious update, now everybody will download the malicious update instead: unless there was a way to tie a code audit to a specific module that you download it seems like this would still be risky
      - robwilliams 12y ago
        That's a risk you take running any program that isn't sandboxed. I don't see how mods through Steam are any different. Until any popular mod is found to be malicious I don't think it's worth getting paranoid about.
porker 12y ago
Skylines is showing at £29.99 (equiv of $46) on greenmangaming for me atm...
- siliconian 12y ago
  If you click on the link VIP and sign up for an account, the standard edition is $21.89

johnward 12y ago

I made a rule to never pre-order after SimCity 5. I broke that rule when I saw the price of skylines, the small dev team that was producing it, and the support they wanted to put in for modders.

tricolon 12y ago

Do you think $30 is cheap or expensive? I, for one, think it's exactly the right price.

mikeash 12y ago
I'd say it's a bit cheap. I'd expect something like this to start out at $50-60 at initial release. EA is still selling Sim City 4 for $20, despite it being old enough to be in middle school by now.
Goronmon 12y ago
I'd say it's a bit on the cheap side when you are talking full retail pricing. It executes well on its premise, has good polish and has no major issues that I've run into at release. That's better than most games asking for $50+ these days. And yet, it's priced at a discount.
yourtoplessmom 12y ago
He thinks it is cheap. He would be willing to pay around $80.

eclipxe 12y ago

Yeah over 10k mods in the first week.. Crazy!

tetraodonpuffer 12y ago
I think skylines mods are non-sandboxed (meaning you can do what you want code-wise, note the mod that adds reddit posts to your game internal chirper) that would concern me from a malware perspective
- eclipxe 12y ago
  http://www.reddit.com/r/CSModAudits http://www.reddit.com/r/CSModAudits
  - tetraodonpuffer 12y ago
    it is nice to see that they post hash values of what was audited, but how do I prevent the steam client from automatically updating the mods I have to a newer non-audited version? how can you compute a checksum of the module before downloading it? it seems the steam client only allows you to 'subscribe' to a mod, not to download/check/install it
- robwilliams 12y ago
  They are non-sandboxed but most are open source. Additionally, there are so many users testing these mods that I doubt any serious malware could be put on Steam without being caught by the community.
  - tetraodonpuffer 12y ago
    assume I have a "good" mod, lots of people download it, which as far as I understand is a "subscription" in steam workshop terms, somebody breaks into my account and uploads a malicious update, now everybody will download the malicious update instead: unless there was a way to tie a code audit to a specific module that you download it seems like this would still be risky
    - robwilliams 12y ago
      That's a risk you take running any program that isn't sandboxed. I don't see how mods through Steam are any different. Until any popular mod is found to be malicious I don't think it's worth getting paranoid about.

porker 12y ago

Skylines is showing at £29.99 (equiv of $46) on greenmangaming for me atm...

siliconian 12y ago
If you click on the link VIP and sign up for an account, the standard edition is $21.89