> On the other hand I can get by with writing Haskell and OCaml without writing tests. Well, I never want to have to maintain one of your Haskell or OCaml proj

> On the other hand I can get by with writing Haskell and OCaml without writing tests. Well, I never want to have to maintain one of your Haskell or OCaml projects. If you think you can get by with any language without tests you are wrong. That being said, yes it is easier to deal with lack of tests in a staticly typed/compiled language than in a dynamic language like clojure/ruby/python/perl/etc. The main point I'd like to make to you is you aren't complaining about Clojure per say, you are complaining about dynamic languages in general. It just so happens clojure is the one you are picking on. Either way, you might like Shen (http://www.shenlanguage.org/ http://www.shenlanguage.org/) though it is very much academic and has few tools around it, it is very much a HaLisp, though i'm not sure about the ML part.