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I used to wonder, years ago when I lived in SF, why does a supposedly green city have such lousy public transportation? If this is successful, expect MUNI to us

by gmarx 12y ago

I used to wonder, years ago when I lived in SF, why does a supposedly green city have such lousy public transportation? If this is successful, expect MUNI to use legal means to get rid of it.

pjlegato 12y ago
Privately run, regularly scheduled bus services open to the public, called "jitneys," are already illegal in San Francisco.[1] Leap and similar services seem to be ignoring this law. They were banned in the 1970s as Muni's service degraded, to shield it from competition. [1] http://missionlocal.org/2014/06/up-until-the-1970s-muni-had-competition/ http://missionlocal.org/2014/06/up-until-the-1970s-muni-had-...
- joshavant 12y ago
  That's interesting, considering, for many years, I've seen this bus around San Francisco with 'jitney bus' literally printed on the side: http://images.nymag.com/travel/weekends/20090910sanfransisco2_insider.jpg http://images.nymag.com/travel/weekends/20090910sanfransisco...
  - pjlegato 12y ago
    That guy is the last holder of an old jitney license. The ban was enacted by not issuing any new licenses. People who already had them were allowed to keep operating. http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/A-One-Man-Traffic-Buster-Jitney-makes-quick-2832137.php http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/A-One-Man-Traffic-Buster-... http://www.yelp.com/biz/jess-losa-jitney-97-san-francisco http://www.yelp.com/biz/jess-losa-jitney-97-san-francisco
eloisant 12y ago
SF was puzzling to me when I live in the Bay Area. In Paris, using your car is hell but you have a good transportation network. In smaller French cities, the transportation network is less developed but you can take your car everywhere and park easily. But San Francisco... Both parking and mass transit is bad! The only viable solution is the bike, but that only works if you're living in the city.
- gmarx 12y ago
  And bike is potentially deadly
  - testingonprod 12y ago
    It's absolutely deadly in traffic

by gmarx 12y ago

I used to wonder, years ago when I lived in SF, why does a supposedly green city have such lousy public transportation? If this is successful, expect MUNI to use legal means to get rid of it.

pjlegato 12y ago

Privately run, regularly scheduled bus services open to the public, called "jitneys," are already illegal in San Francisco.[1] Leap and similar services seem to be ignoring this law. They were banned in the 1970s as Muni's service degraded, to shield it from competition. [1] http://missionlocal.org/2014/06/up-until-the-1970s-muni-had-competition/ http://missionlocal.org/2014/06/up-until-the-1970s-muni-had-...

joshavant 12y ago
That's interesting, considering, for many years, I've seen this bus around San Francisco with 'jitney bus' literally printed on the side: http://images.nymag.com/travel/weekends/20090910sanfransisco2_insider.jpg http://images.nymag.com/travel/weekends/20090910sanfransisco...
- pjlegato 12y ago
  That guy is the last holder of an old jitney license. The ban was enacted by not issuing any new licenses. People who already had them were allowed to keep operating. http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/A-One-Man-Traffic-Buster-Jitney-makes-quick-2832137.php http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/A-One-Man-Traffic-Buster-... http://www.yelp.com/biz/jess-losa-jitney-97-san-francisco http://www.yelp.com/biz/jess-losa-jitney-97-san-francisco

eloisant 12y ago

SF was puzzling to me when I live in the Bay Area. In Paris, using your car is hell but you have a good transportation network. In smaller French cities, the transportation network is less developed but you can take your car everywhere and park easily. But San Francisco... Both parking and mass transit is bad! The only viable solution is the bike, but that only works if you're living in the city.

gmarx 12y ago
And bike is potentially deadly
- testingonprod 12y ago
  It's absolutely deadly in traffic