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Elon Musk: Cars you can drive will eventually be outlawed

11 points by cryptoz 12y ago

meplusplus 12y ago
This will take a very long time to happen but it makes sense. I love to drive my vehicle but the amount of danger present in driving is astronomical. If over 30k deaths per year can be avoided by taking away manual driving, I am all for it.
- marssaxman 12y ago
  Where does the 30k figure come from? I don't see that in the article. In any case, it hardly sounds "astronomical" - that's only about 1.1% of all US deaths in 2013, according to this CDC data <http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf>
  - meplusplus 12y ago
    30k comes from CDC http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm Maybe it's not astronomical but being able to get rid of 30k deaths per year should be a welcome opportunity.
touristtam 12y ago
I can't help but notice that Musk is not pushing for democratization of electrical cars. He doesn't feel like a new Ford. Self driving cars are already road legal in a number of states: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/25/tech/innovation/self-driving-car-california/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/25/tech/innovation/self-drivi... There is security concern about self driving vehicles, like there is already for drone: http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/13/heron-hacked-afghanistan/ http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/13/heron-hacked-afghanista... And despite having over 10 years experience fielding remote controlled/partly automated vehicle, the loss from the DOJ are mounting: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/20/when-drones-fall-from-the-sky/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/20/wh... The future is not all rose for self driving civilian vehicles.
warmfuzzykitten 12y ago
He hasn't spent much time between the coasts, I guess. You'll outlaw cars in this country when you pry them from Americans' cold, dead hands. The transition to driverless cars may, perhaps should, happen in the biggest cities. But in the rest of the US, it's not a technological problem so much as an identity issue.
X-combinator 12y ago
If this actually happens we are Goners... Reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2zdnyn/elon_musk_cars_you_can_drive_will_eventually_be/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2zdnyn/elon_musk...

11 points by cryptoz 12y ago

This will take a very long time to happen but it makes sense. I love to drive my vehicle but the amount of danger present in driving is astronomical. If over 30k deaths per year can be avoided by taking away manual driving, I am all for it.

marssaxman 12y ago
Where does the 30k figure come from? I don't see that in the article. In any case, it hardly sounds "astronomical" - that's only about 1.1% of all US deaths in 2013, according to this CDC data <http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf>
- meplusplus 12y ago
  30k comes from CDC http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm Maybe it's not astronomical but being able to get rid of 30k deaths per year should be a welcome opportunity.

touristtam 12y ago

I can't help but notice that Musk is not pushing for democratization of electrical cars. He doesn't feel like a new Ford. Self driving cars are already road legal in a number of states: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/25/tech/innovation/self-driving-car-california/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/25/tech/innovation/self-drivi... There is security concern about self driving vehicles, like there is already for drone: http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/13/heron-hacked-afghanistan/ http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/13/heron-hacked-afghanista... And despite having over 10 years experience fielding remote controlled/partly automated vehicle, the loss from the DOJ are mounting: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/20/when-drones-fall-from-the-sky/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/20/wh... The future is not all rose for self driving civilian vehicles.

warmfuzzykitten 12y ago

He hasn't spent much time between the coasts, I guess. You'll outlaw cars in this country when you pry them from Americans' cold, dead hands. The transition to driverless cars may, perhaps should, happen in the biggest cities. But in the rest of the US, it's not a technological problem so much as an identity issue.

X-combinator 12y ago

If this actually happens we are Goners... Reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2zdnyn/elon_musk_cars_you_can_drive_will_eventually_be/ http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2zdnyn/elon_musk...