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Windows 10 is looking like the Windows 8 that should have been. I'm especially interested in the OneGet module of PS 5 and package management that they'll be wo

Windows 10 is looking like the Windows 8 that should have been. I'm especially interested in the OneGet module of PS 5 and package management that they'll be working on for it. A Linuxified Windows would be pretty interesting. Why exactly do I see "leaked" in front of Windows 10 so often when one can download the tech preview relatively easily?

wmf 12y ago
There are still leaked builds that are newer than the public Windows 10 builds.
AdmiralAsshat 12y ago
I remember repeating the already-common joke around the time of Windows XP to my middle school Computer Hardware teacher that "Every OTHER Windows release is good." Vista/Windows 7 appeared to cement that, and Windows 8 / Windows 10 just seems like further proof.
- shitlord 12y ago
  To me, it seems like a marketing strategy on MS's part. They know people expect good things from even releases and bad things from odd releases. I think they capitalize on that.
  - alatkins 12y ago
    I think you may be attributing to malice what could be better explained by stupidity :-)
- orionblastar 12y ago
  It is actually Windows 8/8.1/10 Windows 8.1 is better than plain 8, I run it and it still needs work and I use the Classic Start program to get the Start Menu back, but 8.1 works better than 8. I suspect there will also be a 10.1 to replace 10.
  - AdmiralAsshat 12y ago
    Are we considering 8.1 actually distinct from 8, or merely the equivalent of the old service packs? Because even on MS's "good" releases, it wasn't until Windows 98 SE that '98 got good. And it took Windows XP until Service Pack 2 before it was good enough to upgrade from '98.
    - orionblastar 12y ago
      It is like Windows 8.1 is both a service pack and new OS version. You can call it a service pack if you wish but Microsoft stopped using service packs with Windows 8 and made 8.1 instead which is a free upgrade for 8.
higherpurpose 12y ago
And Windows 7 was what Vista was supposed to be - or in other words, it actually takes Microsoft 6+ years to come out with a proper "next version" of Windows, not just 3.
MichaelGG 12y ago
Windows 10 is still pushing the metro shit pretty heavily. The new control panels are a real annoyance. Even something as simple as connecting or viewing WiFi status is more involved than Win7. And worse, they are pushing that shitty rendering, where pixels are ignored and you get blurry small text. Like the number 1 might be rendered with a 2-pixel width body, with one side sightly darker, because the layout system decided the glyph was to be rendered right between two pixels. Great on high DPI, terrible on normal machines. But yes, just having the start menu back and non-full-screen metro is a huge advance over Win8. Especially on the server side. FFS, using win2012 server over RDP is so moronically frustrating. I'd pay $100 to get the inside stories, because I can't believe any actual engineers felt OK shipping a tablet UI on servers. It's just so obviously wrong.

wmf 12y ago

There are still leaked builds that are newer than the public Windows 10 builds.

AdmiralAsshat 12y ago

I remember repeating the already-common joke around the time of Windows XP to my middle school Computer Hardware teacher that "Every OTHER Windows release is good." Vista/Windows 7 appeared to cement that, and Windows 8 / Windows 10 just seems like further proof.

shitlord 12y ago
To me, it seems like a marketing strategy on MS's part. They know people expect good things from even releases and bad things from odd releases. I think they capitalize on that.
- alatkins 12y ago
  I think you may be attributing to malice what could be better explained by stupidity :-)
orionblastar 12y ago
It is actually Windows 8/8.1/10 Windows 8.1 is better than plain 8, I run it and it still needs work and I use the Classic Start program to get the Start Menu back, but 8.1 works better than 8. I suspect there will also be a 10.1 to replace 10.
- AdmiralAsshat 12y ago
  Are we considering 8.1 actually distinct from 8, or merely the equivalent of the old service packs? Because even on MS's "good" releases, it wasn't until Windows 98 SE that '98 got good. And it took Windows XP until Service Pack 2 before it was good enough to upgrade from '98.
  - orionblastar 12y ago
    It is like Windows 8.1 is both a service pack and new OS version. You can call it a service pack if you wish but Microsoft stopped using service packs with Windows 8 and made 8.1 instead which is a free upgrade for 8.

higherpurpose 12y ago

And Windows 7 was what Vista was supposed to be - or in other words, it actually takes Microsoft 6+ years to come out with a proper "next version" of Windows, not just 3.

MichaelGG 12y ago

Windows 10 is still pushing the metro shit pretty heavily. The new control panels are a real annoyance. Even something as simple as connecting or viewing WiFi status is more involved than Win7. And worse, they are pushing that shitty rendering, where pixels are ignored and you get blurry small text. Like the number 1 might be rendered with a 2-pixel width body, with one side sightly darker, because the layout system decided the glyph was to be rendered right between two pixels. Great on high DPI, terrible on normal machines. But yes, just having the start menu back and non-full-screen metro is a huge advance over Win8. Especially on the server side. FFS, using win2012 server over RDP is so moronically frustrating. I'd pay $100 to get the inside stories, because I can't believe any actual engineers felt OK shipping a tablet UI on servers. It's just so obviously wrong.