I don't think he's conflating modules with objects. He's saying that if you have (class-based) objects, you don't need modules because object classes already pr

I don't think he's conflating modules with objects. He's saying that if you have (class-based) objects, you don't need modules because object classes already provide superset of the functionality of modules. In particular they provide open recursion, which is something he thinks you're going to want to have anyway.