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Agree strongly with this: "Does anyone seriously think that was anything other than hitting on Pao?" Any man who is beyond college age, and who sincerely does

Agree strongly with this: "Does anyone seriously think that was anything other than hitting on Pao?" Any man who is beyond college age, and who sincerely does not realize the meaning of handing out gifts and asking women out to dinner, is an idiot and should be removed from any position of authority. Emphasis on "sincerely" -- Randy Komisar is not that stupid, and his denials are hardly sincere. The line "his wife bought the gift for her" has become something of a cliche which married couples use when the husband has been caught flirting but the wife is not yet ready to end the marriage. Gifts given in public, for work well done, are always welcome, but a pattern of private gifts and requests for dinner are universally understood to be requests to initiate a sexual relationship. One last word about "sincerely" -- there are some men who sincerely are that stupid. I have known at least 2. They somehow reach middle age and it does not occur to them that the gifts they are giving to an attractive young woman are being interpreted as sexual overtures. As Schiller said, "Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain." There is no cure for such men, but they need to be kept out of positions of power.

StopWhining 12y ago
Most of my company are women. I'm a male. Tell me how I'm supposed to talk to them, oh super sensitive sage of all gender interactions in all contexts forever. How machine-like and sterile should I be? How many of their emotions should I deny in the pursuit of professionalism? Should I consult with a lawyer with every photon they reflect? It's obvious you've never lead a single human being in your life. You just give them orders like they were some bot, and then pat yourself on the back for practicing equality. You're simply too stupid to understand the alchemy of human relations.
- fweespeech 12y ago
  I'd say it is pretty easy to avoid buying them gifts on Valentine's day and inviting them to private dinners with your SO out of town. If you can't help but spontaneously give gifts to attractive women on Valentine's day...I'm at a loss, I'll admit.
  - StopWhining 12y ago
    Just because the collective assumes Valentine's Day to be of importance has no bearing on my interactions. In fact, my SO and I do NOT celebrate Valentine's day. At all. My SO also goes out drinking with other men. Without me. In private. Why bring any of this up? Because I do not condemn expressions of affection just because the collective makes some childish assumption that grown adults must feel one emotion at a time per person. Plot twist: You can feel affection for someone and not desire sexual activity from them in the same exact way you can feel bloodthirsty rage for someone and not desire to kill them. Yes, I know, it's a mind-blowing concept... the idea of people having complex and nuanced relationships instead of easily codified stateful interactions. (Once again, programmer bias trying to dictate how life should be) Because we must all strive to make life easier for faceless administrators to conduct their soulless policies. /s
    - fweespeech 12y ago
      The argument you reject social norms and have no responsibility to communicate effectively with people who embrace social norms is absurd.
      - StopWhining 12y ago
        Not my argument. I'm saying that social norms have failed and to hold them up as some infallible moral authority of how we should conduct ourselves is absurb. I will not let Generation Helicopter Parent dictate what emotions are acceptable and which ones aren't... especially since they themselves have ZERO experience with emotional nuance and leadership. You go treat people like robots for administrative ease and CYA legalisms, and I'll go treat people like complex humans capable of handling their own lives. Let's see who gets to the top first.
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StopWhining 12y ago

Most of my company are women. I'm a male. Tell me how I'm supposed to talk to them, oh super sensitive sage of all gender interactions in all contexts forever. How machine-like and sterile should I be? How many of their emotions should I deny in the pursuit of professionalism? Should I consult with a lawyer with every photon they reflect? It's obvious you've never lead a single human being in your life. You just give them orders like they were some bot, and then pat yourself on the back for practicing equality. You're simply too stupid to understand the alchemy of human relations.

fweespeech 12y ago
I'd say it is pretty easy to avoid buying them gifts on Valentine's day and inviting them to private dinners with your SO out of town. If you can't help but spontaneously give gifts to attractive women on Valentine's day...I'm at a loss, I'll admit.
- StopWhining 12y ago
  Just because the collective assumes Valentine's Day to be of importance has no bearing on my interactions. In fact, my SO and I do NOT celebrate Valentine's day. At all. My SO also goes out drinking with other men. Without me. In private. Why bring any of this up? Because I do not condemn expressions of affection just because the collective makes some childish assumption that grown adults must feel one emotion at a time per person. Plot twist: You can feel affection for someone and not desire sexual activity from them in the same exact way you can feel bloodthirsty rage for someone and not desire to kill them. Yes, I know, it's a mind-blowing concept... the idea of people having complex and nuanced relationships instead of easily codified stateful interactions. (Once again, programmer bias trying to dictate how life should be) Because we must all strive to make life easier for faceless administrators to conduct their soulless policies. /s
  - fweespeech 12y ago
    The argument you reject social norms and have no responsibility to communicate effectively with people who embrace social norms is absurd.
    - StopWhining 12y ago
      Not my argument. I'm saying that social norms have failed and to hold them up as some infallible moral authority of how we should conduct ourselves is absurb. I will not let Generation Helicopter Parent dictate what emotions are acceptable and which ones aren't... especially since they themselves have ZERO experience with emotional nuance and leadership. You go treat people like robots for administrative ease and CYA legalisms, and I'll go treat people like complex humans capable of handling their own lives. Let's see who gets to the top first.
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