Oh and one more thing. The funny things was I think what tipped MS off about my problem was that I was able to send e-mail though my smtp server on my domain to

Oh and one more thing. The funny things was I think what tipped MS off about my problem was that I was able to send e-mail though my smtp server on my domain to hotmail inboxes if and only if i used OUTLOOK from MS. The only difference was the e-mail headers!! When I used outlook. 100% perfect. If I sent e-mail via thunderbird OR a php script my mail would never even reach the junk mail!! It would just black hole. I compared the headers from outlook and thunderbird and my php script and the body was identical. Only the outlook e-mail had extra header information that MS refuses to identify or explain.