No, they have different goals and different standards. I think people are attributing "antagonistic" when it really isn't there or is not nearly at the level th

No, they have different goals and different standards. I think people are attributing "antagonistic" when it really isn't there or is not nearly at the level the general geekdom thinks it is. Theo doesn't believe in embargoes. Theo doesn't want to be a part of yet another list when he is already swamped with the task load he has. I see zero problem with that. That the OpenSSL and LibreSSL teams talk is readily apparent though.