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> Not only will it fold the information you care most about into a single Google Now wrapper, it will help control the deluge of information and notifications t

by cjslep 12y ago

> Not only will it fold the information you care most about into a single Google Now wrapper, it will help control the deluge of information and notifications that come with poking in and out of a dozen apps a day. Wouldn't this face the same challenges as managing an e-mail account to prevent too much spam/noise? Or is there some way Google Now scales with number of apps that cuts spam down? It seems like the more apps it supports, Google Now would have to be increasingly strict on what apps are allowed to push to the single wrapper.

mattlutze 12y ago
What would be interesting to me is to see the "what cards do I want to see?" logic used with the core set of Google Now information applied to these other app notifications. As in, Now learns what app's announcements or what kind of announcements from apps I always wipe from the dashboard, which ones I click through. Over time it tunes itself to reduce or stop certain kinds of notifications so that I'm just getting the notifications I'm going to want to see. Right now it's just the individual apps that control their notifications (the "give them everything" controls currently exposed don't really allow us to manage the deluge in the right ways). This could provide a better way to control all that.
- nkozyra 12y ago
  Yeah, I agree, and it won't work without this. Which means some sort of NLP so that an app has the ability to separate the things it's attempting to show through some sort of categorization.
nkozyra 12y ago
You may be reading/interpreting this wrong - the wrapper gives users the option to explicitly say they're not interested in X, Y or Z. Assuming that developers are required to qualify their presentation with some sort of context, ie "New movies about cowboys" or "Little League scores in Atlanta, GA" it will defer to the user's choices as it does now. There is always room for abuse, but unlike spam, the application knows the source, so it's easy to cut the head off.
- weego 12y ago
  Also for Now developers, pushing a card to a user is only the intent for that user to get a card (and the intent to show it in certain contexts, like on their commute, at work, leisure time and location based). There is still the Now API black box between you and the end user (plus the end user can just ignore all cards from you if they want with a single swipe). The bigger problem really was that content in the cards sent then gets fed into the Now content "context" algorithm. So for example if you receive content from something about recipes you might find you get spammed with information about restaurants around you at lunch times for example. It really doesn't all feel that great in some regards.
  - nkozyra 12y ago
    But isn't this iterative learning? The first time you use Google Now you generally have some very weak recommendations, but as you filter the results (by adding apps, expressly saying 'yes' or 'no' to cards), it gets better. By and large there's a lot of ML behind the scenes, but it's also supervised learning. It gets better with more data.

by cjslep 12y ago

mattlutze 12y ago

What would be interesting to me is to see the "what cards do I want to see?" logic used with the core set of Google Now information applied to these other app notifications. As in, Now learns what app's announcements or what kind of announcements from apps I always wipe from the dashboard, which ones I click through. Over time it tunes itself to reduce or stop certain kinds of notifications so that I'm just getting the notifications I'm going to want to see. Right now it's just the individual apps that control their notifications (the "give them everything" controls currently exposed don't really allow us to manage the deluge in the right ways). This could provide a better way to control all that.

nkozyra 12y ago
Yeah, I agree, and it won't work without this. Which means some sort of NLP so that an app has the ability to separate the things it's attempting to show through some sort of categorization.

nkozyra 12y ago

You may be reading/interpreting this wrong - the wrapper gives users the option to explicitly say they're not interested in X, Y or Z. Assuming that developers are required to qualify their presentation with some sort of context, ie "New movies about cowboys" or "Little League scores in Atlanta, GA" it will defer to the user's choices as it does now. There is always room for abuse, but unlike spam, the application knows the source, so it's easy to cut the head off.

weego 12y ago
Also for Now developers, pushing a card to a user is only the intent for that user to get a card (and the intent to show it in certain contexts, like on their commute, at work, leisure time and location based). There is still the Now API black box between you and the end user (plus the end user can just ignore all cards from you if they want with a single swipe). The bigger problem really was that content in the cards sent then gets fed into the Now content "context" algorithm. So for example if you receive content from something about recipes you might find you get spammed with information about restaurants around you at lunch times for example. It really doesn't all feel that great in some regards.
- nkozyra 12y ago
  But isn't this iterative learning? The first time you use Google Now you generally have some very weak recommendations, but as you filter the results (by adding apps, expressly saying 'yes' or 'no' to cards), it gets better. By and large there's a lot of ML behind the scenes, but it's also supervised learning. It gets better with more data.