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Does your definition of domestic violence include spanking? If not, why not? Is spanking not violence that happens in the home? Is spanking not violence against

Does your definition of domestic violence include spanking? If not, why not? Is spanking not violence that happens in the home? Is spanking not violence against those who have even less choice than their parents of moving away? If you do include spanking in your definition of domestic violence, then I think you won't find the numbers you're looking for.

kazinator 12y ago
The only 100% relevant statistic that gives us comparative meanness would be ... some sort of measure of meanness itself! Since we don't have that, numbers like reported violence can serve as indirect estimators. If spanking were reported, then it could certainly be used as an estimator of meanness. Spanking is aggression, but less violent than giving someone a black eye, obviously. Depends on the spanking too. Back of the hand versus palm? Head versus buttock? ...
- innguest 12y ago
  Are you suggesting women are getting black eyes as much as children are being spanked? Is getting spanked 936 times a year as a 4 year old less violent than getting a black eye as a grown woman who has access to friends, cars, the police, weapons, means of negotiation, and so on? Indeed the numbers we have are only indirect estimators. That was my point. Who cares what the numbers are if we are not going to do anything to protect the defenseless from being beat up daily and by the millions. I won't even address your disrespectful disdain of this issue by suggesting it matters what part of the hand it is used to hit a defenseless human being, or where they are hit, but I will compare it to asking if the rapist used a condom, and which orifices were involved.
  - kazinator 12y ago
    > Are you suggesting women are getting black eyes /me rereads what /me wrote. I don't see anything even remotely resembling such a claim anywhere, sorry.

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Does your definition of domestic violence include spanking? If not, why not? Is spanking not violence that happens in the home? Is spanking not violence against

by innguest 12y ago

kazinator 12y ago
The only 100% relevant statistic that gives us comparative meanness would be ... some sort of measure of meanness itself! Since we don't have that, numbers like reported violence can serve as indirect estimators. If spanking were reported, then it could certainly be used as an estimator of meanness. Spanking is aggression, but less violent than giving someone a black eye, obviously. Depends on the spanking too. Back of the hand versus palm? Head versus buttock? ...
- innguest 12y ago
  Are you suggesting women are getting black eyes as much as children are being spanked? Is getting spanked 936 times a year as a 4 year old less violent than getting a black eye as a grown woman who has access to friends, cars, the police, weapons, means of negotiation, and so on? Indeed the numbers we have are only indirect estimators. That was my point. Who cares what the numbers are if we are not going to do anything to protect the defenseless from being beat up daily and by the millions. I won't even address your disrespectful disdain of this issue by suggesting it matters what part of the hand it is used to hit a defenseless human being, or where they are hit, but I will compare it to asking if the rapist used a condom, and which orifices were involved.
  - kazinator 12y ago
    > Are you suggesting women are getting black eyes /me rereads what /me wrote. I don't see anything even remotely resembling such a claim anywhere, sorry.