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> ever increasing divorce rates https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=divorce+rate+over+time&tbm=isch https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=divorce+rate+over+t

> ever increasing divorce rates https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=divorce+rate+over+time&tbm=isch https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=divorce+rate+over+time... not sure your premise is true.

irishcoffee 12y ago
As a response, marriage rates over time: https://www.google.com/search?q=marriage+rates+over+time&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sG0HVaL5BqrnsATl5oKoDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=979 https://www.google.com/search?q=marriage+rates+over+time&sou...
- throwawayaway 12y ago
  the demonstrated decreasing marriage rate does not support the premise that divorce rates are increasing. is your response relevant in some other way?
  - irishcoffee 12y ago
    Divorce rates would tend to decrease if marriage rates decrease. Can't divorce if you aren't married.
    - nl 12y ago
      Well.. On the first row of result images in the "divorce rate" search you posted there are 5 graphs. 2 of them measure "divorces per 1000 people", and 3 measure "divorces per 1000 marriages". In the divorce per 1000 marriages case, it would appear to be independent of the marriage rate.
      - chkuendig 12y ago
        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-i... http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marriage-isnt-dead-yet/ http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marriage-isnt-dead-yet/ a) Divorce rates are actually decreasing b) They aren't independent of the marriage rate though (as the marriage rate is decreasing for the people most likely to get divorced)
    - bobbles 12y ago
      But is there for example a higher chance of someone getting a 2nd divorce if they have a 2nd marriage? a 3rd divorce if they get a 3rd marriage? I wonder when it starts to taper off
    - throwawayaway 12y ago
      > Divorce rates would tend to decrease if marriage rates decrease. I agree. That is happening. So the premise that divorce rates are ever increasing is incorrect as applied to the whole population and it is wrong as applied to the married population.

> ever increasing divorce rates https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=divorce+rate+over+time&tbm=isch https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=divorce+rate+over+time... not sure your premise is true.

irishcoffee 12y ago

As a response, marriage rates over time: https://www.google.com/search?q=marriage+rates+over+time&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sG0HVaL5BqrnsATl5oKoDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=979 https://www.google.com/search?q=marriage+rates+over+time&sou...

throwawayaway 12y ago
the demonstrated decreasing marriage rate does not support the premise that divorce rates are increasing. is your response relevant in some other way?
- irishcoffee 12y ago
  Divorce rates would tend to decrease if marriage rates decrease. Can't divorce if you aren't married.
  - nl 12y ago
    Well.. On the first row of result images in the "divorce rate" search you posted there are 5 graphs. 2 of them measure "divorces per 1000 people", and 3 measure "divorces per 1000 marriages". In the divorce per 1000 marriages case, it would appear to be independent of the marriage rate.
    - chkuendig 12y ago
      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-i... http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marriage-isnt-dead-yet/ http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marriage-isnt-dead-yet/ a) Divorce rates are actually decreasing b) They aren't independent of the marriage rate though (as the marriage rate is decreasing for the people most likely to get divorced)
  - bobbles 12y ago
    But is there for example a higher chance of someone getting a 2nd divorce if they have a 2nd marriage? a 3rd divorce if they get a 3rd marriage? I wonder when it starts to taper off
  - throwawayaway 12y ago
    > Divorce rates would tend to decrease if marriage rates decrease. I agree. That is happening. So the premise that divorce rates are ever increasing is incorrect as applied to the whole population and it is wrong as applied to the married population.